Re: [CANSLIM] Re: WTW (was: Which One Is Better - Updated)


From: "NANCY POLCARO" <zillagirl@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: WTW (was: Which One Is Better - Updated)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:11:05 -0700

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I don't know what I'm talking about half the time either Katherine.  I just 
think I'm getting it and then I see something that makes me think I'm not 
getting it. So I ask- to double check myself and it doesn't make sense-that 
tells me what I'm thinking is wrong(or I don't present it properly). Either 
way thanks for your time, I'll just keep reading and trying to learn more. 
Nancy


>From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: WTW (was:  Which One Is Better - Updated)
>Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:23:45 -0500
>
>Nancy,
>
>I have to admit I'm clueless as to what you're asking me in regard to a 
>"response on WTW" as I have seen none.
>
>Your question earlier today was in response to Mike Niemotka's posting 
>about stop losses and I detailed several points with respect to your 
>comments.
>
>But to your questions here, yes, yes, yes, you are correct!!....when the 
>stock essentially moves sideways, *that's* a base. And yes! after it breaks 
>out  it  will move up ("rise", "ascend") for a while before it forms 
>another base.
>
>See  my handwritten notes on bases and rising stocks at: 
>http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/HealthyRisingStock.JPG and
>http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/TypesOfBases.JPG
>
>
>Katherine
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: NANCY POLCARO
>   To: canslim
>   Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:35 PM
>   Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: WTW (was: Which One Is Better - Updated)
>
>
>   Katherine-I have several questions to ask you about your post if you do 
>not mind. I am confused. 1st-I was not disputing your answer to Mike-I was 
>asking , in the situation I was presenting to you (from info I thought I 
>got from you post ) could my response be right or am I totally lost in 
>bases and sells?  Tell me if I am because I was thinking I was getting some 
>understanding but your email sounded like I am not.  Second Part of my info 
>was taken from the link you put a chart in when you posted this email.  I 
>went back and reviewed it and now realize I was looking at the RS line in 
>the 12 week base you pointed out ande not the chart pattern.  Figures huh! 
>Do I understand it to be right that a base is when the stock is going 
>sideways and when it starts its 25 or so climb it is not a base again until 
>it starts going sideways again.  Thanks again for your patience Nancy
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Katherine Malm
>     Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:33 AM
>     To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>     Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: WTW (was: Which One Is Better - Updated)
>
>     Hi Mike,
>
>     WTW didn't have the smoothest base, but it was a 12 week base 
>nonetheless.
>     That's not unusual given the gyrations of the market as it's been 
>groping
>     for this latest bottom. So that you can see my personal take on it, 
>I've
>     annotated the chart at:
>
>     http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/WTW081302.jpg
>
>
>     Gene noted that WTW is also featured in IBD's weblink today. They have 
>also
>     annotated a chart, so you can see their interpretation at:
>
>     http://www.investors.com/weblink/
>
>     Katherine
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: <michael_niemotka@baxter.com>
>     To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>     Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:50 AM
>     Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated
>
>
>
>     Katherine,
>
>     Can you expound on the statement that WTW broke out?  In looking at 
>the
>     chart, I can sorta see a v shaped cwh, but in the handle, the volume 
>did
>     NOT dry up.....what would you say the pivot point was?
>
>     Thanks
>
>     Mike Niemotka , PE
>     Sr. Principal Engineer
>     Baxter Healthcare Corporation
>     Route 120 & Wilson Road
>     Round Lake, IL 60073
>     Tel (847) 270-4075
>     Fax (847) 270-4525
>     michael_niemotka@baxter.com
>
>
>
>                         "Katherine Malm"
>                         <kmalm@earthlink.net>         To:
>     canslim@lists.xmission.com
>                         Sent by:                      cc:
>                         owner-canslim@lists.xm        Subject:     Re: 
>[CANSLIM]
>     Which One Is Better - Updated
>                         ission.com
>
>
>                         08/12/2002 08:02 PM
>                         Please respond to
>                         canslim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     You know, I have a simple solution for this kind of dilemma....don't 
>use
>     the numbers.
>
>     I know it's tempting to use a number like this, as it seems to "tell 
>you
>     everything" about the stock. But I think once you summarize summary
>     numbers, you're asking for trouble. I rank the composite score as 
>"mildly
>     useful."
>
>     Here's an example. I'll select a couple of stocks that have come up 
>for
>     discussion here in the last few months: WTW and TOL.
>
>     Scores?
>     WTW = 96
>     TOL = 95
>
>     Yet, look at the charts. WTW broke out today, TOL is rolling over and
>     playing dead. Doesn't sound like a score of 95/96 "tells" me 
>everything I
>     need to know about the stocks.
>
>     Katherine
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Gene Ricci
>     To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>     Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:41 PM
>     Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated
>
>     Arghhh!
>     Same definition
>     Same data base
>     Same company
>     different numbers!
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Bill Triffet
>     To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>     Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 6:58 PM
>     Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated
>
>     Either way, it appears that the IBD data paints a prettier picture of 
>the
>     stocks.
>
>     -Bill
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Gene Ricci" <genr@swbell.net>
>     To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>     Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:50 PM
>     Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated
>
>
>     I just had today's update figures for DGO sent to me.
>     The 3 columns are 8/9 DGO data
>     8/12 IBD readings 30 minutes ago
>     8/12 DGO just received today's download
>
>
>     Hi Katherine, I hadn't checked today and after reading your note, I
>     'thought' I was in error.
>
>     However, I just went and checked several stocks:
>                     8/9  8/12  8/12
>                      DGO  IBD  DGO
>     AAON     85     86      83
>     AIR          38     55      32
>     ABCB       89     90     90
>     ABM         77    85      75
>     ABN         58    67       58
>     ACE         69    86        71
>     ACMR     92     95       92
>     AES         24     30       25
>     AFCE      72     79       74
>     AFL         92     95       91
>
>
>     The first ten (10) I checked showed different numbers.
>
>     My question still stands, which one is better?
>
>     Gene
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Katherine Malm
>     To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>     Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:47 PM
>     Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better
>
>
>     Hi Gene,
>
>     There seems to be conflicting information on this...See DGO's reply to 
>my
>     recent inquiry (7/31) about the very same thing:
>
>
>
>
>     Hi Katherine,
>
>     Thank you for your recent email to Daily Graphs Online.
>
>     I apologize, but the recent additions to our services have not yet 
>been
>     reflected in our Image Maps resource.  We plan on making the update 
>soon.
>     TO address your question, I would like to confirm that the Composite
>     Rating
>     you see on our service is the same SmartSelect® Composite Rating that 
>is
>     provided by the Investor's Business Daily and investors.com.
>
>     Please write back if you have any questions or need assistance.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Dan
>     Daily Graphs Online
>     www.dailygraphs.com
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Gene Ricci
>     To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>     Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:06 PM
>     Subject: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better
>
>
>     Let's see, IBD provides an Overall Rating and now DGO provides a 
>Composite
>     Rating. Has anyone determined which one is better?
>
>     Gene
>
>     The new SmartSelect® Composite Rating in Investor's Business Daily and
>     the Stock Checkup Overall Rating found on investors.com are based on
>     different formulas.
>
>     The SmartSelect® Composite Rating combines all 5 SmartSelect Ratings
>     into one easy-to-use rating.  More weight is placed on EPS and RS
>     Rating, and the stock's percent off its 52-week high is also included 
>in
>     the formula.  Results are then compared to all other companies, and 
>each
>     company is assigned a rating from 1-99 with 99 being the best.  This
>     rating is designed to help you get a quick feel for how a company's
>     SmartSelect® Ratings compare to all other stocks in our database.  
>This
>     is intended to be an additional tool to help you find the stocks with
>     the highest SmartSelect® Ratings, quickly and easily.
>
>     The Overall Rating in the Stock Checkup is determined by a proprietary
>     formula incorporating all five of the Stock Checkup ratings. These are
>     the Technical Rating, Fundamental Rating, Attractiveness Rating, 
>Group's
>     Technical Rating and Group's Fundamental Rating.  The Stock Checkup 
>uses
>     over 30 different variables including all the SmartSelect® Ratings to
>     calculate the Overall Rating.  When using the Stock Checkup, focus not
>     only on the Overall Rating but all 6 of the Checkup Ratings.  Also 
>study
>     how the stock compares to its group within the individual Checkup
>     Ratings.
>
>
>
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