Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan


From: Kent Norman <kent_norman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 18:23:36 -0700 (PDT)

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Tom

I once heard something that may apply to this case.
It went something like this:
One cowboy said to the other: &#34;I can hit a bullseye at 50
paces&#34;
The other said: &#34;Yes, but how can you do when it is shooting
back?&#34;

Perhaps the reality of being responsible for other peoples money made
him flounder.

Regards
Kent Norman

- --- Tom Worley &lt;stkguru@bellsouth.net&gt; wrote:
&gt; I was watching the fund fairly closely at the time, as I had put a
&gt; number of clients into it that wanted to do CANSLIM, but were
&gt; uncomfortable with individual stocks.
&gt; 
&gt; I saw several factors, not the least of which was the authorized
&gt; structure of the fund.
&gt; 
&gt; The fund could not short, but could be as much as 50% cash.  Ryan
&gt; stayed in cash to the max during several critical rallies, and got
&gt; left behind.
&gt; 
&gt; I worked at the time for a broker dealer where we paid for live
picks
&gt; from WON and his team. I felt Ryan was diverging from what I was
&gt; seeing from WON, who was leaning more towards larger cap stocks,
and
&gt; being fully invested. Ryan didn't seem to believe the market was
&gt; going to move higher, held cash (rather than invest it
defensively),
&gt; and seemed lukewarm on growth stocks. To me at the time, seemed to
be
&gt; a lack of confidence and indecision.
&gt; 
&gt; Ryan's claim to fame was three time winner of a national investing
&gt; contest. That is not the same as running a mutual fund. I know I
have
&gt; learned a lot about managing a mutual fund from my VR Fund.
&gt; 
&gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
&gt; From: J. Lobatto 
&gt; To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
&gt; Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:45 AM
&gt; Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; Tom,
&gt; 
&gt; Interesting that a guy who was apparently brilliantly successful
&gt; earlier failed miserably as a fund manager. Do you think it was a
&gt; result of unfavorable market conditions or did he stray from
CANSLIM,
&gt; or was it something else?
&gt;   ----- Original Message ----- 
&gt;   From: Tom Worley 
&gt;   To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
&gt;   Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:39 AM
&gt;   Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt;   I heard he and WON parted ways after the mutual fund fell flat
on
&gt; its face. I think he is still in the industry, but don't know
where.
&gt; Wasn't impressed with his performance running the fund, nor some
of
&gt; his decision making, so had no further interest in his
performance.
&gt; 
&gt;   ----- Original Message ----- 
&gt;   From: J. Lobatto 
&gt;   To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
&gt;   Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:33 AM
&gt;   Subject: [CANSLIM] David Ryan
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt;   Anyone know the whereabouts or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do
&gt; recall that he and WON started a mutual fund several years ago
that
&gt; had mediocre performance and that was bought out by a fund family.
&gt; Does he still manage money these days and if so, anyone aware of a
&gt; track record?
&gt; 
&gt;   Jon
&gt; 


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