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Ed, that is my point. if you have $2 million and make 50% for 1 year-you =
have a million profit- using your own account. Why put up with the =
headaches of paperwork and people bellyaching about their money? OPM =
used be the mantra in the real estate market. most of those real estate =
gurus and people that i knew in real estate- using other's people money- =
went bankrupt. I lived pretty much lived in a shack-when i met my =
wife-sold my rare book collection to the university-bought my first =
investment house. Never used OPM or borrowed from the bank. never looked =
back-made good. Works the same way in the stock market if one can become =
the good investor. I believe Ann mentioned a couple of classic =
statements that WON wrote that were in his book-she posted these =
recently-very true statements. thank you, david
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Edward W. Gjertsen II=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan
OPM (other people's money) provides leverage. In a hedge fund =
environment, a General Partner can earn 20% profit and 1% management =
fee. Utilizing OPM will enhance a great investor's ability to make =
money. It's not an altruistic pursuit. The downfall (Read Cramer's and =
Marty Schwartz's book) is that OPM brings about many more headaches. =
This is why many in the hedge fund industry close up shop and just trade =
for themselves, that is if they were successful and did not just blow =
up.
Ed Gjertsen II
ed@macktracks.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david frank
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:31 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan
What I find interesting is that David Ryan, I suppose you can call him =
a protege of WON, if he made or makes that much money-why would he =
invest other people's money? I can hardly keep up my own personal =
acoounts. david
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mathews, Craig=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan
Hello Walter,
He is managing private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, =
looking for 99 investors to invest minimum of 500K each. I received a =
prospectus last year, did not participate.
Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Wittesch [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:38 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan
Ryan Capital Management
100 Wilshire Blvd
Santa Monica, CA 90401-1110
Phone (310) 260-6805
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J. Lobatto
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:33 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] David Ryan
Anyone know the whereabouts or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do =
recall that he and WON started a mutual fund several years ago that had =
mediocre performance and that was bought out by a fund family. Does he =
still manage money these days and if so, anyone aware of a track record?
Jon
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ed, that is my point. if you have $2 =
million and=20
make 50% for 1 year-you have a million profit- using your own account. =
Why put=20
up with the headaches of paperwork and people bellyaching about their =
money? OPM=20
used be the mantra in the real estate market. most of those real estate =
gurus=20
and people that i knew in real estate- using other's people =
money-=20
went bankrupt. I lived pretty much lived in a shack-when i met my =
wife-sold my=20
rare book collection to the university-bought my first investment house. =
Never=20
used OPM or borrowed from the bank. never looked back-made good. Works =
the same=20
way in the stock market if one can become the good investor. I believe=20
Ann mentioned a couple of classic statements that=20
WON wrote that were in his book-she posted these recently-very =
true=20
statements. thank you, david</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ded@macktracks.com href=3D"mailto:ed@macktracks.com">Edward =
W. Gjertsen=20
II</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 19, 2002 =
6:26=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] David =
Ryan</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">OPM (other people’s =
money) provides=20
leverage. In a hedge fund environment, a General Partner can =
earn 20%=20
profit and 1% management fee. Utilizing OPM will enhance a great =
investor’s ability to make money. It’s not an =
altruistic pursuit. The=20
downfall (Read Cramer’s and Marty Schwartz’s book) is that =
OPM brings about=20
many more headaches. This is why many in the hedge fund industry =
close=20
up shop and just trade for themselves, that is if they were successful =
and did=20
not just blow up.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">Ed Gjertsen =
II</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: =
blue">ed@macktracks.com</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
owner-</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">=20
[mailto:owner-</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">]=20
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>david=20
frank<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, =
August=20
19, 2002 6:31 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] David=20
Ryan</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What I find interesting=20
is that David Ryan, I suppose you can call him a protege of =
WON, if=20
he made or makes that much money-why would he invest other =
people's=20
money? I can hardly keep up my own personal acoounts.=20
david</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: =
0.5in"><B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
title=3Dcraig.mathews@sap.com =
href=3D"mailto:craig.mathews@sap.com">Mathews,=20
Craig</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> Monday,=20
August 19, 2002 6:08 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> RE:=20
[CANSLIM] David Ryan</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Hello=20
Walter,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">He is=20
managing private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, looking =
for 99=20
investors to invest minimum of 500K each. I received a =
prospectus last=20
year, did not participate.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Craig</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in"><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B> Walter=20
Wittesch [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com]<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, August 18, 2002 =
1:38=20
PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [CANSLIM] David=20
Ryan</SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Ryan=20
Capital Management</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">100=20
Wilshire Blvd</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Santa=20
Monica, CA 90401-1110</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Phone=20
(310) 260-6805</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in"><P=20
class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in"><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>J. =
Lobatto<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, August 18, =
2002 6:33=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [CANSLIM] David=20
Ryan</SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Anyone know the=20
whereabouts or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do recall that he and =
WON=20
started a mutual fund several years ago that had mediocre =
performance and=20
that was bought out by a fund family. Does he still manage money =
these=20
days and if so, anyone aware of a track =
record?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Jon</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCK=
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