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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The ultimate "M" meter
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 19:08:51 -0500
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Hi Curt,
First, thanks for your level-headedness....something that is often in =
short supply in this nasty Bear market!
On the issue of commercial solicitation...there's *always* a fine line. =
We often have people join who do so with no other intent than to find =
clients. Other times, we've had people join the list, mine the names and =
then start spamming them with advertisements on one product or another. =
On the other hand, we as individual investors join the list in hopes of =
sharing what we know and receiving in return new knowledge. That =
generally means that many of us use similar tools and so tend to =
reference them with abandon. Most often you'll see references to the IBD =
and DailyGraphs Online (DGO) for obvious reasons. But we occasionally =
will discuss other tools that are common to many of us like TC2000, =
Vectorvest, HighGrowthStockInvesting, Quotes Plus, and many of the sites =
which cater to CANSLIMers, both free and subscription-based. As a result =
of those discussions, folks become aware of new tools that they might =
not have considered and they may or may not choose to use them as a =
result. We keep wondering how we can get DGO and the IBD to pay us for =
all the free advertising we do....if nothing else, it would be great to =
get some sort of referral discount!!=20
Next, thanks for your excellent post on using very simple moving =
averages to "read" the health of the market. That's something I've =
always appreciated about O'Neil. He advocates looking at the obvious, =
reading it simply, and reading it with mastery. That's one of the =
reasons he suggests sticking to very simple price/volume charts with 50 =
and 200 day moving averages. Learn to read these things well along with =
some indicators like the RS line, the RS rank and the Up/Down volume, =
and you "know" all you need to know about the stock technically. For the =
most part, that holds for taking a read on the market, as you suggested =
in your original email. In the simplest sense, one could just take the =
percentage of stocks above/below the 200 day MA and tell pretty much =
everything!
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Curt Corley=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] The ultimate "M" meter
It certainly wasn't my intention to do any commercial solicitation. I =
am not -- in any way -- professionally affiliated with the products or =
people that I mentioned earlier and could not benefit from endorsing =
their products. I'm a software engineer working on a missile defense =
project for a major aeorospace-defense company. The sources I mentioned =
were used as references only, because I like to back up my words with =
examples and facts.=20
=20
You're right. I definitely did not catch the fact that commercial =
solicitation is prohibited - especially since there have been numerous =
references to commercial sources within the E-mails here in the last few =
days, including IBD, Daily Graphs, HTTMIS, and links to cup-with-handle =
sites. However, I'm sorry that for the faux pas and will now explain =
why I joined the group.
=20
I started getting interested in investments a few years back because =
of my 401K account. Unfortunately, I bought into the hype that you =
should buy indexed funds using dollar-cost averaging. Well, this worked =
for a while, and I was satisfied with the results. However, when the =
bear market started about 2 =BD years ago, I lost a considerable sum of =
money. Whenever something goes sour, I don't cry about it. I analyze =
what went wrong and figure out what I can do to correct the problem. So =
after getting crushed at the onslaught of the bear market, I started =
studying and reading everything I could get my hands on concerning =
investment and trading of stock securities. Naturally, my enthusiasm =
boiled over into the work place. I was talking to a coworker who is a =
diehard CANSLIM advocate, so I bought the HTTMIS book. WON's book made =
a lot of sense to me, and I decided to learn everything I could about =
CANSLIM. While searching the internet for CANSLIM sites, I found this =
mailing list. =20
=20
I was initially offended to be accused of commercial solicitation (can =
you blame me?). However, after getting over my initial reaction and =
thinking things over from your point of view, there are no hard =
feelings. I can understand your concern about the quality of this =
mailing list. If people let salesmen get on the mailing list and start =
pitching their products, the list would degenerate with spam. It has =
been challenging enough to find enough time to read through the dozens =
of good messages that I've received every day so far. I respect your =
assertiveness in ensuring the quality of this list. Thank you.
=20
From what I've seen so far, you have some great advice on this mailing =
list. I hope I too can contribute something useful in the future. =20
=20
Curt
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:28 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] The ultimate "M" meter
=20
Curt, if you had lurked here more than a few days, you might have =
caught the fact that commercial solicitation is prohibited.
=20
If that's not what you intended, then I suggest you introduce yourself =
and tell us why you have joined our group.
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Curt Corley=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 3:16AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] The ultimate "M" meter
=20
I've been lurking here for a few days, and I would like to put in my =
two cents' worth about the question of whether we're in a bull or a bear =
market. I'd also like to give my personal opinion of what the ultimate =
"M" meter is. But first, I want to get some definitions down to make =
sure we're speaking the same language here. I will use the definitions =
that are put forth by the Dow Theory and which, IMHO, are best described =
in the book "Technical Analysis of Stock Trends" by by Robert D. =
Edwards, John Magee, W. H. C. Bassetti (Editor). =20
=20
What's a bull/bear market?
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In "TA of Stock Trends," the authors state that a primary trend is the =
general direction of price movement over a year or more. A bull market =
is a primary trend containing higher highs and higher lows in price. A =
bear market is a primary trend containing lower highs and lower lows in =
price. Within the primary trend are secondary trends. Secondary trends =
last from 3 weeks to many months, and they do not (repeat not) qualify =
as bear or bull markets. The secondary trends are merely the =
corrections within a bull market and the rallies within a bear markets. =
In addition to the primary and secondary trends, there are minor trends =
that usually last less than 6 days and rarely as long as 3 weeks, but =
they are of little importance here. The main thing that I would like to =
get across is this: Using the definitions just described, you can't =
talk about bear and bull markets unless you're talking about a time =
frame of about a year.
=20
What do we use for an "M" Meter?
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Now that the definitions are out of the way, we can talk about how to =
get in and out of bull markets easily using our "M" meter. If you're =
having CWs (i.e., CANSLIM Withdrawals) during a bear market, you might =
try CANSLIM'ing during a rally within the bear market. You can use our =
"M" meter to detect rallies as well. The "M" meter is so simple that I =
feel like a few of you are not going to believe me and will tell me to =
pack sand - but, oh well, here it goes. The "M" meters are moving =
averages. =20
For a good explanation as to why this works, visit =
http://www.401k-maximizer.com/. =20
=20
How do we use the "M" Meter?
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The index you choose to graph will depend on the kind of security =
you're investing in. For general growth stocks, the QQQ ticker symbol =
(NASDAQ) is a good one to use. For especially small cap growth stocks, =
you can choose one of the Russell indexes, such as the Russell 2000. To =
get a feel for whether you're in a bull/bear market, plot the index =
against a 200-day moving average. To get a feel for whether you're in a =
rally/correction, plot the index against a 50-day moving average. The =
reasons we choose a 200-day average for bear/bull "M" indicator are =
because it is: (1) a length of time that approximates the number of =
trading days in one year - the minimum time frame for a bull/bear =
market, and (2) it is an indicator that is highly watched by many =
elephants. The reasons we choose a 50-day average for the =
rally/correction "M" indicator are fairly the same: (1) it's a highly =
watched indicator, (2) it is a time frame that makes a good compromise =
between getting you in and out of a rally without whipsawing you in and =
out.
=20
Defense of the "M" Meter
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Try plotting a 3-year graph of QQQ against a 200-day EMA moving =
average. Imagine yourself getting in on that market when the prices =
crossed above the 200-day MA and getting out of the market when the =
prices crossed below the 200-day MA. You might have gotten whip-sawed 3 =
or 4 times between April and September of 2000 (allowing you to =
participate in the rallies of June and August). But you would have =
stayed out of the bear market since September.
=20
Are we still in a bear market?
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Truth is: nobody knows yet, because enough time hasn't passed. That's =
the way it goes. In a reversal like this, you never know whether it's =
rally or the start of a new bull market until enough time has passed =
(like the saying goes: Hindsight is 20/20). But whether we're truly in =
a bull market or bear market is irrelevant to me. All I care about is =
our meter. And the meter says this. Yesterday (Aug. 21) QQQ finally =
crossed above the 50-day EMA, but it's still a long way from reaching =
the 200-day EMA. I might get into stocks slowly and cautiously right =
now, but I'm certainly not ready to jump in with both feet.
=20
-- Curt
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<DIV>Hi Curt,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>First, thanks for your level-headedness....something that is often =
in short=20
supply in this nasty Bear market!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>On the issue of commercial solicitation...there's *always* a fine =
line. We=20
often have people join who do so with no other intent than to find =
clients.=20
Other times, we've had people join the list, mine the names and then =
start=20
spamming them with advertisements on one product or another. On the =
other hand,=20
we as individual investors join the list in hopes of sharing what =
we know=20
and receiving in return new knowledge. That generally means that =
many of=20
us use similar tools and so tend to reference them with abandon. Most =
often=20
you'll see references to the IBD and DailyGraphs Online (DGO) for =
obvious=20
reasons. But we occasionally will discuss other tools that are common to =
many of=20
us like TC2000, Vectorvest, HighGrowthStockInvesting, Quotes Plus, and =
many of=20
the sites which cater to CANSLIMers, both free and subscription-based. =
As a=20
result of those discussions, folks become aware of new tools that they =
might not=20
have considered and they may or may not choose to use them as a result. =
We keep=20
wondering how we can get DGO and the IBD to pay us for all the free =
advertising=20
we do....if nothing else, it would be great to get some sort of referral =
discount!! </DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Next, thanks for your excellent post on using very simple moving =
averages=20
to "read" the health of the market. That's something I've always =
appreciated=20
about O'Neil. He advocates looking at the obvious, reading it simply, =
and=20
reading it with mastery. That's one of the reasons he suggests sticking =
to very=20
simple price/volume charts with 50 and 200 day moving averages. Learn to =
read=20
these things well along with some indicators like the RS line, the RS =
rank and=20
the Up/Down volume, and you "know" all you need to know about the stock=20
technically. For the most part, that holds for taking a read on the =
market, as=20
you suggested in your original email. In the simplest sense, one could =
just take=20
the percentage of stocks above/below the 200 day MA and tell pretty much =
everything!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dcjcorley@hiwaay.net =
href=3D"mailto:cjcorley@hiwaay.net">Curt Corley</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 22, 2002 =
6:20=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] The =
ultimate "M"=20
meter</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It =
certainly wasn=92t=20
my intention to do any commercial solicitation. I am not -- in any way =
- --=20
professionally affiliated with the products or people that I mentioned =
earlier=20
and could not benefit from endorsing their products.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I=92m a software engineer =
working on a=20
missile defense project for a major <SPAN=20
class=3DSpellE>aeorospace</SPAN>-defense company.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The sources I mentioned were =
used as=20
references only, because I like to back up my words with examples and =
facts.=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You=92re =
right.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I definitely did not catch =
the fact=20
that commercial solicitation is prohibited =96 especially since there =
have been=20
numerous references to commercial sources within the E-mails here in =
the last=20
few days, including IBD, Daily Graphs, HTTMIS, and links to =
cup-with-handle=20
sites.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, =
I=92m sorry=20
that for the faux pas and will now explain why I joined the=20
group.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I started =
getting=20
interested in investments a few years back because of my 401K =
account.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Unfortunately, I bought into =
the hype=20
that you should buy indexed funds using dollar-cost averaging.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, this worked for a =
while, and I=20
was satisfied with the results.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>However, when the bear market started about 2 =BD years ago, I =
lost a=20
considerable sum of money.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =20
</SPAN>Whenever something goes sour, I don=92t cry about it.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I analyze what went wrong =
and figure=20
out what I can do to correct the problem.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So after getting crushed at =
the=20
onslaught of the bear market, I started studying and reading =
everything I=20
could get my hands on concerning investment and trading of stock=20
securities.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Naturally, =
my=20
enthusiasm boiled over into the work place.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I was talking to a coworker =
who is a=20
diehard CANSLIM advocate, so I bought the HTTMIS book.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN =
class=3DSpellE>WON=92s</SPAN> book=20
made a lot of sense to me, and I decided to learn everything I could =
about=20
CANSLIM.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>While =
searching the=20
internet for CANSLIM sites, I found this mailing list.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was =
initially=20
offended to be accused of commercial solicitation (can you blame =
me?).<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, after getting over =
my initial=20
reaction and thinking things over from your point of view, there are =
no hard=20
feelings.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I can =
understand your=20
concern about the quality of this mailing list.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If people let salesmen get =
on the=20
mailing list and start pitching their products, the list would =
degenerate with=20
spam.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It has been =
challenging=20
enough to find enough time to read through the dozens of good messages =
that=20
I=92ve received every day so far.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> </SPAN>I=20
respect your assertiveness in ensuring the quality of this list.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank=20
you.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From what =
I=92ve seen=20
so far, you have some great advice on this mailing list.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I hope I too can =
contribute=20
something useful in the future.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Curt<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
owner-</SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">=20
[mailto:owner-</SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">]=20
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Tom=20
Worley<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>=20
</SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year=3D"2002" Day=3D"22" Month=3D"8"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">Thursday, August 22,=20
2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
Minute=3D"28" Hour=3D"6"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">6:28=20
AM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] The =
ultimate "M"=20
meter</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Curt, if you had lurked =
here more=20
than a few days, you might have caught the fact that commercial =
solicitation=20
is prohibited.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If that's not what you =
intended,=20
then I suggest you introduce yourself and tell us why you have joined =
our=20
group.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message =
- -----=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: =
0.5in"><B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
title=3Dcjcorley@hiwaay.net href=3D"mailto:cjcorley@hiwaay.net">Curt =
Corley</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">=20
</SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year=3D"2002" Day=3D"22" Month=3D"8"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thursday, =
August 22,=20
2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time =
Minute=3D"16" Hour=3D"3"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">3:16AM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> [CANSLIM]=20
The ultimate "M" meter<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I=92ve been lurking here =
for a few=20
days, and I would like to put in my two cents=92 worth about the =
question of=20
whether we=92re in a bull or a bear market.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I=92d also like to give my =
personal=20
opinion of what the ultimate =93M=94 meter is.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But first, I want to get =
some=20
definitions down to make sure we=92re speaking the same language =
here.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will use the definitions =
that are=20
put forth by the Dow Theory and which, IMHO, are best described in the =
book=20
=93Technical Analysis of Stock Trends=94 by </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">by <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=3Dbooks=
&field-author=3DEdwards%2C%20Robert%20D./102-0711160-4510545">Robert =
D. Edwards</A>, <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=3Dbooks=
&field-author=3DMagee%2C%20John/102-0711160-4510545">John=20
Magee</A>, <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=3Dbooks=
&field-author=3DBassetti%2C%20W.%20H.%20C./102-0711160-4510545">W.=20
H. C. Bassetti</A> (Editor).</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What=92s a bull/bear=20
market?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<o:p></o:=
p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In =93TA of Stock =
Trends,=94 the=20
authors state that a primary trend is the general direction of price =
movement=20
over a year or more.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A =
bull=20
market is a primary trend containing higher highs and higher lows in=20
price.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A bear market is =
a primary=20
trend containing lower highs and lower lows in price.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Within the primary trend are =
secondary=20
trends.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Secondary =
trends last=20
from 3 weeks to many months, and they do not (repeat not) qualify as =
bear or=20
bull markets.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The =
secondary=20
trends are merely the corrections within a bull market and the rallies =
within=20
a bear markets.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In =
addition to=20
the primary and secondary trends, there are minor trends that usually =
last=20
less than 6 days and rarely as long as 3 weeks, but they are of little =
importance here.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The =
main thing=20
that I would like to get across is this:<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Using the definitions just described, you can=92t talk about =
bear and=20
bull markets unless you=92re talking about a time frame of about a=20
year.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What do we use for an =
=93M=94=20
Meter?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now that the definitions =
are out=20
of the way, we can talk about how to get in and out of bull markets =
easily=20
using our =93M=94 meter.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>If you=92re=20
having CWs (i.e., CANSLIM Withdrawals) during a bear market, you might =
try=20
CANSLIM=92ing during a rally within the bear market.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can use our =93M=94 =
meter to detect=20
rallies as well.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The =
=93M=94 meter is=20
so simple that I feel like a few of you are not going to believe me =
and will=20
tell me to pack sand =96 but, oh well, here it goes.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The =93M=94 meters are =
moving=20
averages.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =20
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For a good explanation =
as to why=20
this works, visit <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.401k-maximizer.com/">http://www.401k-maximizer.com/</A=
>.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =20
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How do we use the =
=93M=94=20
Meter?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<o:=
p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The index you choose to =
graph will=20
depend on the kind of security you=92re investing in.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For general growth stocks, =
the QQQ=20
ticker symbol (NASDAQ) is a good one to use.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For especially small cap =
growth=20
stocks, you can choose one of the Russell indexes, such as the Russell =
2000.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To get a feel for =
whether=20
you=92re in a bull/bear market, plot the index against a 200-day =
moving=20
average.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To get a feel =
for=20
whether you=92re in a rally/correction, plot the index against a =
50-day moving=20
average.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The reasons we =
choose a=20
200-day average for bear/bull =93M=94 indicator are because it is: (1) =
a length of=20
time that approximates the number of trading days in one year =96 the =
minimum=20
time frame for a bull/bear market, and (2) it is an indicator that is =
highly=20
watched by many elephants.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>The=20
reasons we choose a 50-day average for the rally/correction =93M=94 =
indicator are=20
fairly the same: (1) it=92s a highly watched indicator, (2) it is a =
time frame=20
that makes a good compromise between getting you in and out of a rally =
without=20
whipsawing you in and out.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Defense of the =93M=94=20
Meter<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Try plotting a 3-year =
graph of QQQ=20
against a 200-day EMA moving average.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Imagine yourself getting in on that market when the prices =
crossed=20
above the 200-day MA and getting out of the market when the prices =
crossed=20
below the 200-day MA. You might have gotten whip-sawed 3 or 4 times =
between=20
April and September of 2000 (allowing you to participate in the =
rallies of=20
June and August).<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But =
you would=20
have stayed out of the bear market since=20
September.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Are we still in a bear=20
market?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<o:=
p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Truth is: nobody knows =
yet,=20
because enough time hasn=92t passed. That=92s the way it goes.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In a reversal like this, you =
never=20
know whether it=92s rally or the start of a new bull market until =
enough time=20
has passed (like the saying goes: Hindsight is 20/20).<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But whether we=92re truly in =
a bull=20
market or bear market is irrelevant to me.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All I care about is our =
meter.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And the meter says =
this.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yesterday (Aug. 21) QQQ =
finally=20
crossed above the 50-day EMA, but it=92s still a long way from =
reaching the=20
200-day EMA.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I might =
get into=20
stocks slowly and cautiously right now, but I=92m certainly not ready =
to jump in=20
with both feet.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
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