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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:31:41 -0400
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_000_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50" - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, As a new member of this group, I have benefited greatly from folks posting their own original concepts and ideas. In some cases, DGO and IBD were one of many sources used to substantiate the presentation. I cannot appreciate IBD's exaggerated and unwarranted action towards this group. No doubt IBD has at least one attorney on staff looking to justify his/her salary. As others have said, a truly objective and fair evaluation of the information exchange between this exemplary group and IBD would conclude that IBD gains far more from us than we from them. The only difference is that this group does not have a lawyer on staff. Also, I feel they a picking on the group because it is an easy target. What is to stop anyone of us from saving charts/data from the IBD and DGO sites and then sharing that data with several friends via private e-mail? When I am knowledgeable enough to contribute to this board, I will simply create an untraceable e-mail account and post items from there. I'm sure glad that the light bulb was not invented by IBD or the music and motion picture industries. If it were, we would be paying a royalty on each bulb, and there would be a lucrative black market for importing bulbs from Canada. Sorry for this rant but IBD is really being unreasonable. jg P.S. IBD come and get me! - -----Original Message----- From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:09 PM To: CANSLIM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk All... Earlier this week I got a Certified Letter from IBD warning me that my posting on July 21st of a spreadsheet from Screen of the Day is in violation of the Terms and Conditions of Investors.com. I've conversed with several members off list regarding this matter, and the reactions have been mixed. The point is the material they provide is proprietary. Since not everyone on this list subscribes to IBD, it's important that when you post something herein it is not in violation of their Terms and Conditions. I have my own mixed feelings, ranging from silly to respectful: Silly, because this list is one of the more respected lists out there (as in non-Yahoo-ish), and if ever there was a bonanza freebie for IBD, this is it! You can't buy this kind of publicity! The fact that from time to time we pass along "privileged" information itself stirs curiosity amongst lurkers, whetting their appetites for more. They ultimately end up subscribing, etc, etc. I am, however, respectful, because they're right--they own the material and it's for the personal use only of subscribers. I just wonder which one of us is the "mole". C'est la vie.... Duke This email, including any attachments, was scanned by Norton Anti-Virus prior to being sent. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hello,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As a new member of this group, I have benefited greatly from folks posting their own original concepts and ideas. In some cases, DGO and IBD were one of many sources used to substantiate the presentation. I cannot appreciate IBD's exaggerated and unwarranted action towards this group. No doubt IBD has at least one attorney on staff looking to justify his/her salary.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As others have said, a truly objective and fair evaluation of the information exchange between this exemplary group and IBD would conclude that IBD gains far more from us than we from them. The only difference is that this group does not have a lawyer on staff. Also, I feel they a picking on the group because it is an easy target. What is to stop anyone of us from saving charts/data from the IBD and DGO sites and then sharing that data with several friends via private e-mail?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>When I am knowledgeable enough to contribute to this board, I will simply create an untraceable e-mail account and post items from there. I'm sure glad that the light bulb was not invented by IBD or the music and motion picture industries. If it were, we would be paying a royalty on each bulb, and there would be a lucrative black market for importing bulbs from Canada.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sorry for this rant but IBD is really being unreasonable. jg</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=175051616-23082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>P.S. IBD come and get me!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:09 PM<BR><B>To:</B> CANSLIM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial>All...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial>Earlier this week I got a Certified Letter from IBD warning me that my posting on July 21st of a spreadsheet from Screen of the Day is in violation of the Terms and Conditions of Investors.com. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial>I've conversed with several members off list regarding this matter, and the reactions have been mixed. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial>The point is the material they provide is proprietary. Since not everyone on this list subscribes to IBD, it's important that when you post something herein it is not in violation of their Terms and Conditions. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial>I have my own mixed feelings, ranging from silly to respectful: </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial>Silly, because this list is one of the more respected lists out there (as in non-Yahoo-ish), and if ever there was a bonanza freebie for IBD, this is it! You can't buy this kind of publicity! The fact that from time to time we pass along "privileged" information itself stirs curiosity amongst lurkers, whetting their appetites for more. They ultimately end up subscribing, etc, etc. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial>I am, however, respectful, because they're right--they own the material and it's for the personal use only of subscribers. I just wonder which one of us is the "mole".</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial>C'est la vie....</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=390464521-22082002><FONT face=Arial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><FONT size=2> <P align=left>This email, including any attachments, was scanned by Norton Anti-Virus prior to being sent. </P></FONT> <DIV align=left><IMG alt="" hspace=0 src="cid:175051616@23082002-1f32" align=baseline border=0></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50-- - ------_=_NextPart_000_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50 Content-Type: image/gif; name="USflag.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="USflag.gif" Content-ID: <175051616@23082002-1f32> R0lGODdhSwBLAPcAAP//////zP/M///MzP/Mmf+ZzP+Zmf+ZZv9mmf9mZsz//8z/zMzM/8zMzMzM mcyZzMyZmcyZZsxmmcxmZsxmM8xmAMwzmcwzZswzM8wzAMwAZswAM8wAAJnM/5nMzJnMmZmZzJmZ mZmZZplmmZlmZplmM5lmAJkzZpkzM5kzAJkAZpkAM5kAAGaZzGaZmWaZZmZmzGZmmWZmZmZmM2Zm AGYzZmYzM2YzAGYAM2YAADOZzDOZmTNmzDNmmTNmZjNmMzMzmTMzZjMzMzMzADMAZjMAMzMAAABm mQBmZgAzmQAzZgAzMwAAZgAAM7sAAKoAAIgAAHcAAFUAAEQAACIAABEAAAAiAAARAP///wAAVQAA RAAAIgAAEe7u7t3d3bu7u6qqqoiIiHd3d1VVVURERCIiIhEREQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACH5BAAAAAAALAAAAABLAEsA QAj/ALEIHEiwoMGDCBMqXMhwyA0TJlIwnEixokUsD00MYbhkiZKPF0OKzDgkxsceH5Wg7JGkBcog HYN8TOLBC8skSXp0aXBkBZQoOXLgWIHigtELE5KSqEFmTIgGAKJK7ULVSwMZB0n2QKnEBc6tSmQG 8aGyJYicOEG0+BhkLJgGXaTKlepFjBkSEAroLfDgwYC/gL9gRUhyxQoWP3NEiQKFheHHjzdIZhFl CpUpUCCveML5SeQNLKZMYSFZMuTSPqdUyaGQpBgxIcB8mf3lAe0GuL1Q7fJlTBUpjjU/RoECg3EU Un47Lo3apxQjRqQ0NswiYUYjixcHzQ6lOwsWnKGo/xZJfuL18ujTF7yRwoQR9fDjy59fsYrDGzfo 62eoVWVKsjL1AIILRxzx0RJCeOTBTUokAUIDMSSxwgaHRSGFaDk0xhlklF04hRSKZZddDlJkBdEQ PpDlg0llscSiR0qE0MMRaTWQBI009eBDGLHpNldUO4VRBhlgxPWjXF2EQdiJWzGohA8yncQSjUe0 0AJOOQXRxBJBCDGhaaeh9tyXzJVpGhWtnbgCDttNJ9xnFEpBBXaafffdhhP6RAVwZqL2RGVV0LmC dSc+5YVVDdCm6BcN/NVACGQIIQYEBkBgKQR9MdroAA2AIYMZVORgGHObQfFcdNOV9sR7S7q336uE tf/HKqy01mrrrbgSVAV7EJmQX676kQTsfiThlFJYXKWUkwdKLLHFFlsSdKwSi3Vn4azBnnhSW1Km RCNKS2wZQoM5eXEWlknA1WkYYoQBxqFecJqopSTYgMNQZJK6AmsG9TcWWSqBsNURXCX4kU1Y9gDA uUkosZQNNhBn3MQYGGbqnFGQ1qdpUFRhokZckcWVC2E1e5ISNLog8I0trdWsYlB41udmUVBBRRRP 6JvvYR5/PERXKoEF5Vgl99DCty3TmGJHS6BwQlJJHSX1BShQYcOlWGcNgQQkpKnRblaBEcLYb+nW hQAC7FbVF2GMQYYMEGwqL26bxjtACGaM8AVgfPf/DQEZC5HUwAMhhMFj2WqrPZVgQsjwhZFgm20k AF3gHQLf8Ka99hhm2NA1oRoFJRRxpJceJgo2FFFGGF5Q3sWhdNMN2N9lFHkk5V6EMIYQTmkK+hBS MGZnd8R7Bx51yU2BAtRGlY6CZjhUIcS7P+7k6dtPTT6Yz28OR9wJSFGtGp8UPuaZZ9RdfFmIIqp3 3rD0vQ+/fPLPDx+v2NqfHnsp5K///wAMoAAHaJD7EFAku+qVrw54EYdAJAUbYaBFhCXBCZ6oghbU yLQ2qKyGKWELBySJy1LiAjCQTFkt8IISmlCGJpDLWOT6yJcOk4MpGOFD/KKftnrwBTAALCU8PMtH /3zQkY+sbGQtiNADrAKBetlLQ3WCQg1BlJnmbIYyPhvXsXwgG5RgKQQ+aEKCgoCWnNxkRkkIAQTY 1a63JO51nZLBGMRAvSO9Tkn90pYSYiC2aekEBM0SgsEi1KSWfAUlKwAKzIIDmSdIETpSWAHFzGQY /2HkRF9I1kdc0IArDXEMHnHBjAqklhnNyCU+GFsIvtC66nkBDGQogw2eBjUJ2FICWPtcHjX4kVWe sGElNFkYZtICD+CoSkJUQhGGUpypSQ11ZhjDEgUwALv1rQB/a9UQeqjJFHIlCGKYiQeuhJMjjNOD RGQmxdaJARREDzNk0gxqovA7IJrLgzEiIU+w5P8BYzYsBkRcghjgcjupNMBtXyioXLwAOG26oAvk /AgYWKSEL5AzJ11gWAxc0BEiZqZ7qMlBFaIQzzBJ5gkl+p3ZrNJDVTJKcm+MY1PC0ICVwutQavsC GQaaOJyqzQt4/B2YErkYk1JyBacSVfc+sy8qQEFnO4vCb7w2hMfgYDH4elOZ1mSEIthgAreEmljF eoK77K1vgNFLE8tQhhBQ9ZWF4xGmFjUbuQ3gCyQQQufA50ykjHUCNjBCvmaWAyr8BgpUVeQi7cTY 4+VJPFWYwgyXmieR1gCXWrtlvdgqg7L97jWxqSm8YufTqAC1DGN4lwBuetOfhoCtRelr83AAnQyt oe93bMrY8IgnTwpFwQihyhN17ISnChlWVOw8Dg6K4FW8YA23ziMOZBrjWPGYQQytdN3r4LWbR8Wy s3a9axNtUAavSmxilhQISWQzmweAgb11rSlVANAAu9CpfIZBn2Z+G9mM7YwFOQBudEJEPMv8brfF I96daGizKbBPsSICioFhRUGFgCgoFawfBgMHkfRueJce/jBBNCzirMiqxIE7MYqto+IVm7h/LiZI QAAAOw== - ------_=_NextPart_000_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". 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