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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:05:44 -0500
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jans, how come it's a she? I thought WON was a man....
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Spencer48@aol.com=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: IBD Cops Lurk (But as we've all found out after =
9/11: Cops CanBeNecessary!)
Tom and Duke:
Some times I copy&paste passages from the Investors Corner column =
in=20
Investor.com. I have yet to receive notice (legal or otherwise) from =
IBD=20
that I shouldn't. I'm not sure if I'm doing something right or I'm =
just=20
being overlooked. =20
However, I do make sure that I attribute all the columns (and I =
usually=20
only copy&paste passages from the columns) to IBD and to the authors =
of the=20
relevant column. I also put quotes around the passages to =
differentiate what=20
I write from the author's thoughts on the topic.=20
However, after saying all this, I can understand why IBD wants to =
maintain her proprietory ownership over her intellectual property. If =
she=20
didn't object when she believes non-fair use of IBD property is being =
used,=20
then, I believe, in effect, she would be effectively waiving her =
rights.
jans
In a message dated 8/22/2002 9:50:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20
stkguru@bellsouth.net writes:
<< MessageDuke, the funny thing is, if you don't identify your primary =
source=20
and also "blend in" other sources until the final product is your own=20
creation, they have no complaint. That is what I was forced to do when =
my=20
weekly scans of stocks at or close to new highs came entirely from =
DGO. Once=20
or twice I posted the spread sheet of data right from DGO's report, =
after=20
deleting every stock I didn't mention (from several hundred down to =
about=20
30). Instead of appreciating that I was showing non subscribers the =
quantity=20
and quality of CANSLIM data available from DGO, they threatened me as =
well.=20
Seems to be corporate policy of both DGO and IBD, with presumably =
lurkers=20
from both companies in our midst.=20
=20
They don't seem to mind when you quote current data on a short list =
of=20
stocks, just can't copy directly from them. I will always wonder just =
how=20
many articles printed in IBD were a direct result of ideas, comments =
and=20
observations of our postings here, and taken from this group without =
any=20
attribution or credit. They are strictly one way, what is theirs is =
theirs,=20
and what is ours is theirs as well.
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Duke Miller=20
To: CANSLIM=20
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:08 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk
=20
=20
All...
=20
Earlier this week I got a Certified Letter from IBD warning me that =
my=20
posting on July 21st of a spreadsheet from Screen of the Day is in =
violation=20
of the Terms and Conditions of Investors.com. =20
=20
I've conversed with several members off list regarding this matter, =
and the=20
reactions have been mixed. =20
=20
The point is the material they provide is proprietary. Since not =
everyone=20
on this list subscribes to IBD, it's important that when you post =
something=20
herein it is not in violation of their Terms and Conditions. =20
=20
I have my own mixed feelings, ranging from silly to respectful: =20
=20
Silly, because this list is one of the more respected lists out there =
(as in=20
non-Yahoo-ish), and if ever there was a bonanza freebie for IBD, this =
is it! =20
You can't buy this kind of publicity! The fact that from time to time =
we=20
pass along "privileged" information itself stirs curiosity amongst =
lurkers,=20
whetting their appetites for more. They ultimately end up subscribing, =
etc,=20
etc. =20
=20
I am, however, respectful, because they're right--they own the =
material and=20
it's for the personal use only of subscribers. I just wonder which =
one of us=20
is the "mole".
=20
C'est la vie.... >>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">jans, how come it's a she? I thought =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] Re: IBD Cops =
Lurk (But=20
as we've all found out after 9/11: Cops CanBeNecessary!)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Tom and Duke:<BR><BR> Some =
times I=20
copy&paste passages from the Investors Corner column in=20
<BR>Investor.com. I have yet to receive notice (legal or =
otherwise) from=20
IBD <BR>that I shouldn't. I'm not sure if I'm doing =
something=20
right or I'm just <BR>being overlooked. =
<BR><BR> =20
However, I do make sure that I attribute all the columns (and I =
usually=20
<BR>only copy&paste passages from the columns) to IBD and to the =
authors=20
of the <BR>relevant column. I also put quotes around the =
passages to=20
differentiate what <BR>I write from the author's thoughts on the =
topic.=20
<BR><BR> However, after saying all this, I can =
understand why IBD wants to <BR>maintain her proprietory ownership =
over her=20
intellectual property. If she <BR>didn't object when she =
believes=20
non-fair use of IBD property is being used, <BR>then, I believe, in =
effect,=20
she would be effectively waiving her rights.<BR><BR>jans<BR><BR><BR>In =
a=20
message dated 8/22/2002 9:50:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A>=20
writes:<BR><BR><< MessageDuke, the funny thing is, if you don't =
identify=20
your primary source <BR>and also "blend in" other sources until the =
final=20
product is your own <BR>creation, they have no complaint. That is what =
I was=20
forced to do when my <BR>weekly scans of stocks at or close to new =
highs came=20
entirely from DGO. Once <BR>or twice I posted the spread sheet of data =
right=20
from DGO's report, after <BR>deleting every stock I didn't mention =
(from=20
several hundred down to about <BR>30). Instead of appreciating that I =
was=20
showing non subscribers the quantity <BR>and quality of CANSLIM data =
available=20
from DGO, they threatened me as well. <BR>Seems to be corporate policy =
of both=20
DGO and IBD, with presumably lurkers <BR>from both companies in our =
midst.=20
<BR> <BR> They don't seem to mind when you quote current =
data on a=20
short list of <BR>stocks, just can't copy directly from them. I will =
always=20
wonder just how <BR>many articles printed in IBD were a direct result =
of=20
ideas, comments and <BR>observations of our postings here, and taken =
from this=20
group without any <BR>attribution or credit. They are strictly one =
way, what=20
is theirs is theirs, <BR>and what is ours is theirs as=20
well.<BR> <BR> ----- Original Message ----- <BR> From: =
Duke=20
Miller <BR> To: CANSLIM <BR> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 =
6:08=20
PM<BR> Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops=20
Lurk<BR> <BR> <BR> All...<BR> <BR> Earlier =
this week=20
I got a Certified Letter from IBD warning me that my <BR>posting on =
July 21st=20
of a spreadsheet from Screen of the Day is in violation <BR>of the =
Terms and=20
Conditions of Investors.com. <BR> <BR> I've conversed =
with=20
several members off list regarding this matter, and the <BR>reactions =
have=20
been mixed. <BR> <BR> The point is the material they =
provide=20
is proprietary. Since not everyone <BR>on this list subscribes =
to IBD,=20
it's important that when you post something <BR>herein it is not in =
violation=20
of their Terms and Conditions. <BR> <BR> I have my own =
mixed=20
feelings, ranging from silly to respectful: =
<BR> <BR> Silly,=20
because this list is one of the more respected lists out there (as in=20
<BR>non-Yahoo-ish), and if ever there was a bonanza freebie for IBD, =
this is=20
it! <BR>You can't buy this kind of publicity! The fact =
that from=20
time to time we <BR>pass along "privileged" information itself stirs =
curiosity=20
amongst lurkers, <BR>whetting their appetites for more. They =
ultimately end up=20
subscribing, etc, <BR>etc. <BR> <BR> I am, however,=20
respectful, because they're right--they own the material and <BR>it's =
for the=20
personal use only of subscribers. I just wonder which one of us =
<BR>is=20
the "mole".<BR> <BR> C'est la vie.... =
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