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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C24B45.22E40270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What... no grease or acid... won't make reading the paper the same! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Subscription..delivery. Hi Tom, I have a guess that the cost for the e-copy is significantly higher = because they've probably figured out that there will be folks who buy the = e-copy and then share it. Of course, I'm not advocating this, but I'm sure that = had something to do with their pricing model. People share the printed = copy now, so it would make sense that they would share an e-copy as well, it'll = just be easier to do so--and besides, no KKD and SBUX stains all over the = pages! Katherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Subscription..delivery. | don't know how pertinent my experience may be, but when I subscribed = to IBD | (back in the days before Daily Graphs Online was available, heck, = the | internet didn't exist then, I don't think), my copy of IBD was = faithfully on | the front lawn every morning the same time as the local paper. How = come, you | ask? I live in Miami, and IBD (then just Investors Daily) had enough | subscribers in South Florida that they contracted with a local = printer to | print the paper. And contracted with a local delivery service (same = one that | delivered the local paper) to deliver door to door. Thus, outside of = Los | Angeles, the quality of delivery seems dependent on two factors: the | availability of a cheap printer, and a contractual delivery service. = I would | also suspect that the sharp reduction in advertising dollars being = spent in | the past few years has curtailed IBD's local contractual services in = favor | of mailing the paper (doesn't hurt that USPS keeps raising the rate = for | first class mail so we can subsidize the system while they won't = layoff | anyone, and bulk mailers continue to clog the system and create = volume at | heavily discounted and subsidized rates). | | What I don't get, especially since IBD is apparently still unable to provide | reliable daily service in many areas of the USA, not to mention the = rest of | the world, is why charge so much more for an e version (then again, = why not, | since people want the paper and IBD can't deliver reliably any way else??). | I believe that the paper must be totally in an electronic form at = some point | before it hits the printing press. Therefore, the cost of = distributing it | electronically cannot be very great. Why not just give subscribers = the | choice of delivery form? If it means cutting down fewer trees to use paper, | that's good. It certainly seems to me that the cost of delivery = would be | cheaper for IBD, so if they charged the same, their profit margins = would go | up if paper subscribers choose instead the e-paper. | | And they could always delay sending an e-paper to those with the = free two | week subscription so it arrives right before they have to leave for = work. | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "J. Lobatto" <jlobatto@nyc.rr.com> | To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> | Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 4:49 PM | Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Subscription..delivery. | | | I've got my own pet peeve and I live in New York City. In most of Manhattan, | IBD is delivered by hand early in the AM. Because of my zip code, = although I | am just one block away from a hand delivery zip, IBD refuses to hand deliver | and mails it. As a result, 20% of the time it doesn't arrive until = the day | after it's supposed to arrive. | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: <Mendheart@aol.com> | To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> | Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 4:07 PM | Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Subscription..delivery. | | | > Canslimers, | > | > Can you help me with something. I've consistently refused to = subscribe to | a | > regular IBD subscription because they can't get the paper = delivered on the | > same date as publication. Get this...its only been going on for 5 years. | > They always make numerous excuses or that...'oh this is such = timely | > info..reading it later doesn't make any difference. Give me a = break. | Now, | > another caveat...I live in Boise, Idaho. I know we're not a major = city | but | > believe it or not we're serviced by airlines...very successfully I = might | add. | > We've had one of the best economies in the past 10 years as well = as | > tremendous growth and accolades...but apparently IBD cant get its = act | > together. I realize this is a bit off subject...I'm just venting. = Its | > simply the principle of the thing! Thanks. | > | > - | > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" | > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or | > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. | | | - | -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" | -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or | -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. | | | | | - | -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" | -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or | -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C24B45.22E40270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4916.2300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">What... no grease or acid... won't = make reading=20 the paper the same!</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net = href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20 Malm</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 24, 2002 = 7:45=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] IBD=20 Subscription..delivery.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Tom,<BR><BR>I have a guess that the cost for the = e-copy is=20 significantly higher because<BR>they've probably figured out that = there will=20 be folks who buy the e-copy and<BR>then share it. Of course, I'm not=20 advocating this, but I'm sure that had<BR>something to do with their = pricing=20 model. People share the printed copy now,<BR>so it would make sense = that they=20 would share an e-copy as well, it'll just<BR>be easier to do so--and = besides,=20 no KKD and SBUX stains all over the = pages!<BR><BR>Katherine<BR><BR><BR>-----=20 Original Message -----<BR>From: "Tom Worley" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>To= :=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>Sent:=20 Friday, August 23, 2002 11:22 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD=20 Subscription..delivery.<BR><BR><BR>| don't know how pertinent my = experience=20 may be, but when I subscribed to<BR>IBD<BR>| (back in the days before = Daily=20 Graphs Online was available, heck, the<BR>| internet didn't exist = then, I=20 don't think), my copy of IBD was faithfully<BR>on<BR>| the front lawn = every=20 morning the same time as the local paper. How come,<BR>you<BR>| ask? I = live in=20 Miami, and IBD (then just Investors Daily) had enough<BR>| subscribers = in=20 South Florida that they contracted with a local printer to<BR>| print = the=20 paper. And contracted with a local delivery service (same = one<BR>that<BR>|=20 delivered the local paper) to deliver door to door. Thus, outside of = Los<BR>|=20 Angeles, the quality of delivery seems dependent on two factors: = the<BR>|=20 availability of a cheap printer, and a contractual delivery service.=20 I<BR>would<BR>| also suspect that the sharp reduction in advertising = dollars=20 being spent<BR>in<BR>| the past few years has curtailed IBD's local=20 contractual services in favor<BR>| of mailing the paper (doesn't hurt = that=20 USPS keeps raising the rate for<BR>| first class mail so we can = subsidize the=20 system while they won't layoff<BR>| anyone, and bulk mailers continue = to clog=20 the system and create volume at<BR>| heavily discounted and subsidized = rates).<BR>|<BR>| What I don't get, especially since IBD is apparently = still=20 unable to<BR>provide<BR>| reliable daily service in many areas of the = USA, not=20 to mention the rest<BR>of<BR>| the world, is why charge so much more = for an e=20 version (then again, why<BR>not,<BR>| since people want the paper and = IBD=20 can't deliver reliably any way<BR>else??).<BR>| I believe that the = paper must=20 be totally in an electronic form at some<BR>point<BR>| before it hits = the=20 printing press. Therefore, the cost of distributing it<BR>| = electronically=20 cannot be very great. Why not just give subscribers the<BR>| choice of = delivery form? If it means cutting down fewer trees to = use<BR>paper,<BR>|=20 that's good. It certainly seems to me that the cost of delivery would = be<BR>|=20 cheaper for IBD, so if they charged the same, their profit margins=20 would<BR>go<BR>| up if paper subscribers choose instead the = e-paper.<BR>|<BR>|=20 And they could always delay sending an e-paper to those with the free = two<BR>|=20 week subscription so it arrives right before they have to leave for=20 work.<BR>|<BR>| ----- Original Message -----<BR>| From: "J. Lobatto" = <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:jlobatto@nyc.rr.com">jlobatto@nyc.rr.com</A>><BR>| = To: <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>|=20 Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 4:49 PM<BR>| Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD=20 Subscription..delivery.<BR>|<BR>|<BR>| I've got my own pet peeve and I = live in=20 New York City. In most of<BR>Manhattan,<BR>| IBD is delivered by hand = early in=20 the AM. Because of my zip code, although<BR>I<BR>| am just one block = away from=20 a hand delivery zip, IBD refuses to hand<BR>deliver<BR>| and mails it. = As a=20 result, 20% of the time it doesn't arrive until the day<BR>| after = it's=20 supposed to arrive.<BR>|<BR>| ----- Original Message -----<BR>| From: = <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:Mendheart@aol.com">Mendheart@aol.com</A>><BR>| To: = <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>|=20 Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 4:07 PM<BR>| Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD=20 Subscription..delivery.<BR>|<BR>|<BR>| > Canslimers,<BR>| ><BR>| = >=20 Can you help me with something. I've consistently refused to=20 subscribe<BR>to<BR>| a<BR>| > regular IBD subscription because they = can't=20 get the paper delivered on<BR>the<BR>| > same date as = publication. =20 Get this...its only been going on for 5<BR>years.<BR>| > They = always make=20 numerous excuses or that...'oh this is such timely<BR>| > = info..reading it=20 later doesn't make any difference. Give me a break.<BR>| = Now,<BR>| >=20 another caveat...I live in Boise, Idaho. I know we're not a = major=20 city<BR>| but<BR>| > believe it or not we're serviced by = airlines...very=20 successfully I might<BR>| add.<BR>| > We've had one of the = best=20 economies in the past 10 years as well as<BR>| > tremendous growth = and=20 accolades...but apparently IBD cant get its act<BR>| > = together. I=20 realize this is a bit off subject...I'm just venting. Its<BR>| = >=20 simply the principle of the thing! Thanks.<BR>| ><BR>| > = - -<BR>|=20 > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>| = > -In=20 the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>| > -"unsubscribe=20 canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.<BR>|<BR>|<BR>| -<BR>| = - -To=20 subscribe/unsubscribe, email "<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>| = - -In the=20 email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>| -"unsubscribe = canslim". Do=20 not use quotes in your email.<BR>|<BR>|<BR>|<BR>|<BR>| -<BR>| -To=20 subscribe/unsubscribe, email "<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>| = - -In the=20 email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>| -"unsubscribe = canslim". Do=20 not use quotes in your email.<BR><BR><BR>-<BR>-To = subscribe/unsubscribe, email=20 "<A = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>-In= =20 the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>-"unsubscribe = canslim". =20 Do not use quotes in your email.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C24B45.22E40270-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.
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