Re: Volatility (was [CANSLIM] CSTR)


From: "Norman" <theboyd@tisd.net>
Subject: Re: Volatility (was [CANSLIM] CSTR)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:54:19 -0500

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Ed,

Is this "daily range" analysis the same as ATR (avg true range) analysis?

Before someone says this OT, it goes to the volatility that WON talks about
so often.

Norm
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" <ed@macktracks.com>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CSTR


> Michael,
>
> With the PE on CSTR in the mid 70's, there is risk.  Even though WON
> doesn't really pay attention to PE, many do.  Second, this is not the
> first time CSTR has fallen so quickly.  One additional analysis we
> perform is to review charts form mini implosions.  There have been many
> stocks we have passed over due to a volatile trading history.  Stocks
> that have recent (6 months) daily ranges of greater than 10% carry
> additional risks for Canslimers.
>
> Ed Gjertsen II
> ed@macktracks.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of
> michael_niemotka@baxter.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:22 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CSTR
>
>
> I appreciate all the advice that I have gotten.  It is when stuff like
> this
> happens that makes me question a trading "method".  I'm sure if CSTR
> stays
> down, it will only be a matter of time before I see and IBD write up
> using
> their famous 20-20 hindsight to show why it was destined to fall.  Does
> anyone else see anything in the price volume action that would lead them
> to
> believe that this was going to happen, or is it the M that is still not
> strong enough?
>
> Okay, now I feel a bit better after venting.  Thank you all!
>
>
> Mike Niemotka , PE
> Sr. Principal Engineer
> Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> Route 120 & Wilson Road
> Round Lake, IL 60073
> Tel (847) 270-4075
> Fax (847) 270-4525
> michael_niemotka@baxter.com
>
>
>
>
>                     "Edward W. Gjertsen
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>                     II"                           To:
> canslim@lists.xmission.com
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>                     Sent by:                      Subject:     RE:
> [CANSLIM] CSTR
>                     owner-canslim@lists.xm
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>                     ission.com
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>
>
>
>                     08/27/2002 10:09 AM
>
>                     Please respond to
>
>                     canslim
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Mike
>
> CSTR was a favorite of many Canslimers - with the problems we faced with
> buying CVH recently (too many chasing too few) we are seeing similar
> results, which unfortunately are on the downside.  You mentioned that
> you got into the office late.  Remember - there are people who do this
> for a living with millions at stake.  A slight smell of weakness and
> they may sell some of their position to take some risk off the table -
> selling begets selling and before you know it CSTR is down over 20%.  We
> have been in this situation several times before - and sold quickly -
> and yes much to our chagrin - some stocks came roaring back - but in
> other cases the stock kept declining.  Throw out your ego - sell - and
> if CSTR sets up again look at buying it.  I don't want to get too deep
> into wash sale rules, but you can't take and loss on CSTR if you buy it
> back within 30 days.  Good luck
>
> Ed Gjertsen II
> ed@macktracks.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of
> michael_niemotka@baxter.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:25 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] CSTR
>
> Does anyone know what is going on with this stock?  Got in late to the
> office today and it is down 18%!!!
>
> I know we are supposed to sell at 7-8%, but now do I sell anyway, or
> wait
> it out to see if the day may turn a bit?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike Niemotka , PE
> Sr. Principal Engineer
> Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> Route 120 & Wilson Road
> Round Lake, IL 60073
> Tel (847) 270-4075
> Fax (847) 270-4525
> michael_niemotka@baxter.com
>
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