Re: [CANSLIM] CSTR


From: "Winston Little" <wlittle1@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CSTR
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:24:28 -0400

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Mike:
As WMT moves more and more into grocery sales in both their main stores =
and Sam's clubs, there is severe pressure on the old established grocery =
chains.
I have not seen CSTR machines at WMT locations.
A 9% fee would also not fit with the WMT mission, perhaps 1% would be =
more like it.=20

7-11? A possibility, but would they get the traffic to support the =
machines?
I am less upbeat on the CSTR business concept than most others... but I =
also feel that way about SBUX and KKD.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Kelly Short=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CSTR


  Winston,

  Do you think it would be difficult for CSTR to replace these outlets =
with new ones? Wouldn't Walmart, 7-Eleven, and other grocery stores be =
good locations?

  Kelly

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Winston Little [mailto:wlittle1@peoplepc.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:00 PM
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CSTR


    Mike:

    My understanding is that CSTR machines were located primarily in =
Kroger, Albertson and Safeway stores.
    Nationwide, these chains have  3600+2400+1770 =3D 7700 locations.
    There are 9300 CSTR outlets currently, and promises of installing an =
additional 800 in a year.
    However, it so happens that the three named chains have been closing =
outlets faster than snowflakes melting on a summer's day.
    Thus the CSTR installation has been shrinking as the stores close, =
so fewer places to pay 9% for someone to count your money.

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Mike Gibbons=20
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:35 PM
      Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CSTR


      Does anyone know what "market saturation" is?

      I'm somewhat gratified by the several comments about the strength =
of CSTR's chart, because my own algorithm had rated it top of about 50 =
CwH patterns yesterday. It would have been better with less volatility =
and less volume in the handle, but no stock's perfect.

      Aloha,

      Mike Gibbons
      Proactive Technologies, LLC
      http://www.proactech.com
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
        Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:52 AM
        To: canslim
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CSTR


        cnbc said it was caused by market saturation.=20

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: David Taggart
          Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:08 AM
          To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
          Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CSTR

          I have a bunch of coin rolls located on my dresser and just =
fill them up as
          I go (except for the pennies which go in a bucket in my =
closet) Once a roll
          is filled I then use it to buy gas.  The gas station people =
never seem to
          mind getting a $10 quarter roll or a $2 nickel roll.  It works =
for me
          because like you I will never haul my change to the store only =
to be charged
          for it.

          Happy Trading,
          David Taggart

          -----Original Message-----
          From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
          [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of =
Katherine Malm
          Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:51 AM
          To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
          Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CSTR


          Hi Mike,

          Technically, this chart is about as good as it gets in a =
market like this--A
          handle 8/1 to 8/14, breakout 8/15 on volume, an orderly =
pullback to the
          pivot since then. I'd be hard pressed to fault the technicals =
unless you
          want to argue the somewhat light volume on the right side of =
the cup, which
          I won't, because it's insignificant in my mind.

          There are a couple of things that kept me away from =
CSTR---high debt load
          (though they've been restructuring debt recently, so they stay =
in my sights
          in the meantime) and low ROE of 5% (primarily because they =
only turned EPS
          positive in the last 4 quarters). Given the market is on shaky =
ground, I'd
          rather sit back and watch the behavior of the stock than to =
dive
          in....preferring to stalk the trade on other stocks which are =
fundamentally
          stronger, but not yet finished with their bases. I also like =
to sit back and
          watch most of the early stocks out of the gate after a =
follow-through and
          see how they're acting, CSTR included.

          I've often scratched my head at the business model.....seemed =
crazy that you
          would *pay* to count your change and be happy to receive some =
crisp dollar
          bills and a few store coupons for the "privilege." But I =
understand they're
          appealing to a part of the population that is primarily =
cash-based and not
          to those of us who've forgotten what it looks like and instead =
use our ATM
          card for everything. Recently, however, I've had a greater =
appreciation for
          their "service" as my bank has stopped waiving their coin =
counting fees
          after doing so for, well, forever.... We've always kept a =
"change can" and
          dumped our change each day. When it's full, it's about =
$200....I'd make my
          ritual trek to the bank to have them count it out, then that =
evening we
          would go out for a pricey dinner, something we rarely do. Now =
that they're
          charging, however, the CSTR kiosks become an alternative. =
Personally, I'm
          too cheap to pay *anybody* to count my money for me, so I =
won't be using the
          bank *or* CSTR...but I'll bet you there are many folks who =
would consider
          it. The blurb I saw on the OffWallStreet report mentioned =
something about
          "saturation." Though I haven't seen the report and know =
nothing more than
          this, I have only one thought when I hear something like that =
in the same
          breath as CSTR----Starbucks.

          Katherine


          ----- Original Message -----
          From: <michael_niemotka@baxter.com>
          To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
          Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:22 AM
          Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CSTR


          |
          | I appreciate all the advice that I have gotten.  It is when =
stuff like
          this
          | happens that makes me question a trading "method".  I'm sure =
if CSTR stays
          | down, it will only be a matter of time before I see and IBD =
write up using
          | their famous 20-20 hindsight to show why it was destined to =
fall.  Does
          | anyone else see anything in the price volume action that =
would lead them
          to
          | believe that this was going to happen, or is it the M that =
is still not
          | strong enough?
          |
          | Okay, now I feel a bit better after venting.  Thank you all!
          |
          |
          | Mike Niemotka , PE
          | Sr. Principal Engineer
          | Baxter Healthcare Corporation
          | Route 120 & Wilson Road
          | Round Lake, IL 60073
          | Tel (847) 270-4075
          | Fax (847) 270-4525
          | michael_niemotka@baxter.com
          |
          |
          |
          |                     "Edward W. Gjertsen
          |                     II"                           To:
          canslim@lists.xmission.com
          |                     <ed@macktracks.com>           cc:
          |                     Sent by:                      Subject:   =
  RE:
          [CANSLIM] CSTR
          |                     owner-canslim@lists.xm
          |                     ission.com
          |
          |
          |                     08/27/2002 10:09 AM
          |                     Please respond to
          |                     canslim
          |
          |
          |
          |
          |
          |
          | Dear Mike
          |
          | CSTR was a favorite of many Canslimers - with the problems =
we faced with
          | buying CVH recently (too many chasing too few) we are seeing =
similar
          | results, which unfortunately are on the downside.  You =
mentioned that
          | you got into the office late.  Remember - there are people =
who do this
          | for a living with millions at stake.  A slight smell of =
weakness and
          | they may sell some of their position to take some risk off =
the table -
          | selling begets selling and before you know it CSTR is down =
over 20%.  We
          | have been in this situation several times before - and sold =
quickly -
          | and yes much to our chagrin - some stocks came roaring back =
- - but in
          | other cases the stock kept declining.  Throw out your ego - =
sell - and
          | if CSTR sets up again look at buying it.  I don't want to =
get too deep
          | into wash sale rules, but you can't take and loss on CSTR if =
you buy it
          | back within 30 days.  Good luck
          |
          | Ed Gjertsen II
          | ed@macktracks.com
          |
          | -----Original Message-----
          | From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
          | [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of
          | michael_niemotka@baxter.com
          | Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:25 AM
          | To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
          | Subject: [CANSLIM] CSTR
          |
          | Does anyone know what is going on with this stock?  Got in =
late to the
          | office today and it is down 18%!!!
          |
          | I know we are supposed to sell at 7-8%, but now do I sell =
anyway, or
          | wait
          | it out to see if the day may turn a bit?
          |
          | Thanks
          |
          | Mike Niemotka , PE
          | Sr. Principal Engineer
          | Baxter Healthcare Corporation
          | Route 120 & Wilson Road
          | Round Lake, IL 60073
          | Tel (847) 270-4075
          | Fax (847) 270-4525
          | michael_niemotka@baxter.com
          |
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Mike:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">As WMT moves more and more into =
grocery sales=20
in both their main stores and Sam's clubs, there is severe pressure on =
the old=20
established grocery chains.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I have not seen CSTR machines at WMT =

locations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">A 9% fee would also not fit with the =
WMT=20
mission, perhaps 1% would be more like it.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">7-11? A possibility, but would they =
get the=20
traffic to support the machines?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I am less upbeat on the CSTR =
business concept=20
than most others... but I also feel that way about SBUX and =
KKD.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dkelly.short@tx.us.neoris.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:kelly.short@tx.us.neoris.com">Kelly Short</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 27, 2002 =
4:01=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
CSTR</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D214160020-27082002><FONT=20
  face=3Dverdana>Winston,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D214160020-27082002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D214160020-27082002><FONT face=3Dverdana>Do you =
think it would=20
  be difficult for CSTR to replace these outlets with new ones? Wouldn't =

  Walmart, 7-Eleven, and other grocery stores be good=20
  locations?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D214160020-27082002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D214160020-27082002><FONT=20
  face=3Dverdana>Kelly</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D214160020-27082002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Winston =
Little=20
    [mailto:wlittle1@peoplepc.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 27, =
2002 3:00=20
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
    Re: [CANSLIM] CSTR<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Mike:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">My understanding is that CSTR =
machines=20
    were located primarily in Kroger, Albertson and Safeway =
stores.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Nationwide, these chains =
have&nbsp;=20
    3600+2400+1770 =3D 7700 locations.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">There are 9300 CSTR outlets =
currently, and=20
    promises of installing an additional 800 in a year.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">However, it so happens that the =
three=20
    named chains have been closing outlets faster than snowflakes =
melting on a=20
    summer's day.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Thus the CSTR installation has =
been=20
    shrinking as the stores close, so fewer places to pay 9% for someone =
to=20
    count your money.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dmikegibbons@proactech.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:mikegibbons@proactech.com">Mike Gibbons</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 27, =
2002 3:35=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
CSTR</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D120400119-27082002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080>Does=20
      anyone know what "market saturation" is?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D120400119-27082002><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
      color=3D#000080></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D120400119-27082002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080>I'm=20
      somewhat gratified by the several comments about the strength of =
CSTR's=20
      chart, because my own algorithm had rated it top of about 50 CwH =
patterns=20
      yesterday. It would have been better with less volatility and less =
volume=20
      in the handle, but no stock's perfect.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D120400119-27082002><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
      color=3D#000080></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D120400119-27082002></SPAN><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
      color=3D#000080>Aloha,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080>Mike Gibbons</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080>Proactive Technologies,=20
      LLC</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080>http://www.proactech.com</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT=20
        face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
        owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>NANCY=20
        POLCARO<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:52 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
        canslim<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
CSTR<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>cnbc&nbsp;said it was caused by market =
saturation.&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message =
- -----</DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
          David Taggart</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August =
27, 2002=20
          9:08 AM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B>=20
          canslim@lists.xmission.com</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
CSTR</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>I have a bunch of coin rolls located on my =
dresser=20
          and just fill them up as<BR>I go (except for the pennies which =
go in a=20
          bucket in my closet) Once a roll<BR>is filled I then use it to =
buy=20
          gas.&nbsp; The gas station people never seem to<BR>mind =
getting a $10=20
          quarter roll or a $2 nickel roll.&nbsp; It works for =
me<BR>because=20
          like you I will never haul my change to the store only to be=20
          charged<BR>for it.<BR><BR>Happy Trading,<BR>David=20
          Taggart<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:=20
          =
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.=
com]On=20
          Behalf Of Katherine Malm<BR>Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 =
9:51=20
          AM<BR>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] =

          CSTR<BR><BR><BR>Hi Mike,<BR><BR>Technically, this chart is =
about as=20
          good as it gets in a market like this--A<BR>handle 8/1 to =
8/14,=20
          breakout 8/15 on volume, an orderly pullback to the<BR>pivot =
since=20
          then. I'd be hard pressed to fault the technicals unless =
you<BR>want=20
          to argue the somewhat light volume on the right side of the =
cup,=20
          which<BR>I won't, because it's insignificant in my =
mind.<BR><BR>There=20
          are a couple of things that kept me away from CSTR---high debt =

          load<BR>(though they've been restructuring debt recently, so =
they stay=20
          in my sights<BR>in the meantime) and low ROE of 5% (primarily =
because=20
          they only turned EPS<BR>positive in the last 4 quarters). =
Given the=20
          market is on shaky ground, I'd<BR>rather sit back and watch =
the=20
          behavior of the stock than to dive<BR>in....preferring to =
stalk the=20
          trade on other stocks which are fundamentally<BR>stronger, but =
not yet=20
          finished with their bases. I also like to sit back =
and<BR>watch most=20
          of the early stocks out of the gate after a follow-through =
and<BR>see=20
          how they're acting, CSTR included.<BR><BR>I've often scratched =
my head=20
          at the business model.....seemed crazy that you<BR>would *pay* =
to=20
          count your change and be happy to receive some crisp =
dollar<BR>bills=20
          and a few store coupons for the "privilege." But I understand=20
          they're<BR>appealing to a part of the population that is =
primarily=20
          cash-based and not<BR>to those of us who've forgotten what it =
looks=20
          like and instead use our ATM<BR>card for everything. Recently, =

          however, I've had a greater appreciation for<BR>their =
"service" as my=20
          bank has stopped waiving their coin counting fees<BR>after =
doing so=20
          for, well, forever.... We've always kept a "change can" =
and<BR>dumped=20
          our change each day. When it's full, it's about $200....I'd =
make=20
          my<BR>ritual trek to the bank to have them count it out, then =
that=20
          evening we<BR>would go out for a pricey dinner, something we =
rarely=20
          do. Now that they're<BR>charging, however, the CSTR kiosks =
become an=20
          alternative. Personally, I'm<BR>too cheap to pay *anybody* to =
count my=20
          money for me, so I won't be using the<BR>bank *or* CSTR...but =
I'll bet=20
          you there are many folks who would consider<BR>it. The blurb I =
saw on=20
          the OffWallStreet report mentioned something =
about<BR>"saturation."=20
          Though I haven't seen the report and know nothing more =
than<BR>this, I=20
          have only one thought when I hear something like that in the=20
          same<BR>breath as =
CSTR----Starbucks.<BR><BR>Katherine<BR><BR><BR>-----=20
          Original Message -----<BR>From:=20
          &lt;michael_niemotka@baxter.com&gt;<BR>To:=20
          &lt;canslim@lists.xmission.com&gt;<BR>Sent: Tuesday, August =
27, 2002=20
          10:22 AM<BR>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CSTR<BR><BR><BR>|<BR>| I =
appreciate=20
          all the advice that I have gotten.&nbsp; It is when stuff=20
          like<BR>this<BR>| happens that makes me question a trading=20
          "method".&nbsp; I'm sure if CSTR stays<BR>| down, it will only =
be a=20
          matter of time before I see and IBD write up using<BR>| their =
famous=20
          20-20 hindsight to show why it was destined to fall.&nbsp; =
Does<BR>|=20
          anyone else see anything in the price volume action that would =
lead=20
          them<BR>to<BR>| believe that this was going to happen, or is =
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          that is still not<BR>| strong enough?<BR>|<BR>| Okay, now I =
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          better after venting.&nbsp; Thank you all!<BR>|<BR>|<BR>| Mike =

          Niemotka , PE<BR>| Sr. Principal Engineer<BR>| Baxter =
Healthcare=20
          Corporation<BR>| Route 120 &amp; Wilson Road<BR>| Round Lake, =
IL=20
          60073<BR>| Tel (847) 270-4075<BR>| Fax (847) 270-4525<BR>|=20
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          canslim<BR>|<BR>|<BR>|<BR>|<BR>|<BR>|<BR>| Dear Mike<BR>|<BR>| =
CSTR=20
          was a favorite of many Canslimers - with the problems we faced =

          with<BR>| buying CVH recently (too many chasing too few) we =
are seeing=20
          similar<BR>| results, which unfortunately are on the =
downside.&nbsp;=20
          You mentioned that<BR>| you got into the office late.&nbsp; =
Remember -=20
          there are people who do this<BR>| for a living with millions =
at=20
          stake.&nbsp; A slight smell of weakness and<BR>| they may sell =
some of=20
          their position to take some risk off the table -<BR>| selling =
begets=20
          selling and before you know it CSTR is down over 20%.&nbsp; =
We<BR>|=20
          have been in this situation several times before - and sold =
quickly=20
          -<BR>| and yes much to our chagrin - some stocks came roaring =
back -=20
          but in<BR>| other cases the stock kept declining.&nbsp; Throw =
out your=20
          ego - sell - and<BR>| if CSTR sets up again look at buying =
it.&nbsp; I=20
          don't want to get too deep<BR>| into wash sale rules, but you =
can't=20
          take and loss on CSTR if you buy it<BR>| back within 30 =
days.&nbsp;=20
          Good luck<BR>|<BR>| Ed Gjertsen II<BR>| =
ed@macktracks.com<BR>|<BR>|=20
          -----Original Message-----<BR>| From:=20
          owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>|=20
          [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of<BR>|=20
          michael_niemotka@baxter.com<BR>| Sent: Tuesday, August 27, =
2002 9:25=20
          AM<BR>| To: canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>| Subject: [CANSLIM] =

          CSTR<BR>|<BR>| Does anyone know what is going on with this=20
          stock?&nbsp; Got in late to the<BR>| office today and it is =
down=20
          18%!!!<BR>|<BR>| I know we are supposed to sell at 7-8%, but =
now do I=20
          sell anyway, or<BR>| wait<BR>| it out to see if the day may =
turn a=20
          bit?<BR>|<BR>| Thanks<BR>|<BR>| Mike Niemotka , PE<BR>| Sr. =
Principal=20
          Engineer<BR>| Baxter Healthcare Corporation<BR>| Route 120 =
&amp;=20
          Wilson Road<BR>| Round Lake, IL 60073<BR>| Tel (847) =
270-4075<BR>| Fax=20
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