Re: [CANSLIM] CSTR CVH Failed breakouts Post Analysis


From: Sol Mayer <smaye1211@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CSTR CVH Failed breakouts Post Analysis
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT)

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Ian:
Aren't all cw/h a situation where the right side of cup is higher than left side which means that there is overhead resistance at the price of the right side of cup?
 Ian wrote:John:

One thing you might want to revisit is your selection of breakout points for
CSTR. As early as APril, CSTR had traded over $34 for a week, on higher
volume. It flies in the face of what a breakout point is meant to be (a
removal of significant known overhead resistance) to buy a stock just $1.50
below where a lot of shares have changed hands in recent days.

IMHO, a break through $35.50, on a large volume increase, on a third attempt
would have been much safer, from a historical perspective.

Ian


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Subject: [CANSLIM] CSTR CVH Failed breakouts Post Analysis


> Ok, now that I have admitted that I didn't make a huge blunder buying CSTR
> and CVH on their breakouts. I need advice on how I can improve after
> loosing a large percentage on these two stocks.
>
> I'm unable to be at a computer during the day, so I check the volume and
> price with TD Waterhouse Phone Trade Direct. My first pick like many was
> CSTR. On August 15th it brokeout and I purchased it at $32.50. I set my
> Sell Stop at 8% below my purchase price at $29.90. My stop order was
> executed at $26.61 after the gap down. I guess I consider myself lucky it
> didn't execute at $24 what ever because of the price action for the day.
My
> second trade was with CVH. It broke out on August 19th and was able to
> purchase it at $33.83. The sell stop order was again placed at 8% below
at
> $31.12. My sell stop was executed at $28.75.
>
> This is the most difficult time I have had with my orders yet. I have
> usually been able to get much closer to my stop price. I can't afford to
> loose and average of 16% or double the CANSLIM method. I have heard that
it
> is unwise to "Tip you hand" by having a stop order out there for the
market
> makers to grab. But if I'm such a small fish out there, then how on earth
> could my little stop order influence anyone? Is there a trading platform
> that is better at setting up unattended orders. I've heard of trailing
> stops etc. but aren't these just ideas or soft stops that you have to
watch
> the intra-day action of the market to take advantage of?
>
> I just can't seem to get out of the shoot...I suppose along with everyone
> else. I understand that Due Diligence might have helped on these two
> stocks, but who would have ever thought both of these would have gapped
over
> my stop orders like this!
>
> I sure would like to know how you buy and sell when you can't glue
yourself
> to a monitor all day long. I hope that the digital cell tower shows up
> close to where I work so I can at least get price and volume alerts sent
to
> me. I had this before and it worked better than this stop order crapola.
>
> (JC)
>
>
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<P>Ian:
<P>Aren't all cw/h a situation where the right side of cup is higher than left side which means that there is overhead resistance at the price of the right side of cup?
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>Ian <IANSTM@SHAW.CA></I></B>wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">John:<BR><BR>One thing you might want to revisit is your selection of breakout points for<BR>CSTR. As early as APril, CSTR had traded over $34 for a week, on higher<BR>volume. It flies in the face of what a breakout point is meant to be (a<BR>removal of significant known overhead resistance) to buy a stock just $1.50<BR>below where a lot of shares have changed hands in recent days.<BR><BR>IMHO, a break through $35.50, on a large volume increase, on a third attempt<BR>would have been much safer, from a historical perspective.<BR><BR>Ian<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: John Calkins <JCALKINS@OLYPEN.COM><BR>To: <CANSLIM@LISTS.XMISSION.COM><BR>Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:52 AM<BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] CSTR CVH Failed breakouts Post Analysis<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Ok, now that I have admitted that I didn't make a huge blunder buying CSTR<BR>&gt; and CVH on their breakouts. I need advice on how I can improve after<BR>&gt; loosing a large percentage on these two stocks.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I'm unable to be at a computer during the day, so I check the volume and<BR>&gt; price with TD Waterhouse Phone Trade Direct. My first pick like many was<BR>&gt; CSTR. On August 15th it brokeout and I purchased it at $32.50. I set my<BR>&gt; Sell Stop at 8% below my purchase price at $29.90. My stop order was<BR>&gt; executed at $26.61 after the gap down. I guess I consider myself lucky it<BR>&gt; didn't execute at $24 what ever because of the price action for the day.<BR>My<BR>&gt; second trade was with CVH. It broke out on August 19th and was able to<BR>&gt; purchase it at $33.83. The sell stop order was again placed at 8% below<BR>at<BR>&gt; $31.12. My sell stop was executed at $28.75.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; This is the most difficult time I have had with my orders yet. I have<BR>&gt; usually been able to get much closer to my stop price. I can't afford to<BR>&gt; loose and average of 16% or double the CANSLIM method. I have heard that<BR>it<BR>&gt; is unwise to "Tip you hand" by having a stop order out there for the<BR>market<BR>&gt; makers to grab. But if I'm such a small fish out there, then how on earth<BR>&gt; could my little stop order influence anyone? Is there a trading platform<BR>&gt; that is better at setting up unattended orders. I've heard of trailing<BR>&gt; stops etc. but aren't these just ideas or soft stops that you have to<BR>watch<BR>&gt; the intra-day action of the market to take advantage of?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I just can't seem to get out of the shoot...I suppose along with everyone<BR>&gt; else. I understand that Due Diligence might have helped on these two<BR>&gt; stocks, but who would have ever thought both of these would have gapped<BR>over<BR>&gt; my stop orders like this!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I sure would like to know how you buy and sell when you can't glue<BR>yourself<BR>&gt; to a monitor all day long. I hope that the digital cell tower shows up<BR>&gt; close to where I work so I can at least get price and volume alerts sent<BR>to<BR>&gt; me. I had this before and it worked better than this stop order crapola.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; (JC)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -<BR>&gt; -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"<BR>&gt; -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>&gt; -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.<BR><BR><BR>-<BR>-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"<BR>-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.</BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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