Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.


From: "NANCY POLCARO" <ZILLAGIRL@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:33:19 -0700

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i read an article that said that one of the problems in Japan is that no =
on is spending but everyone is saving. Just the opposite of the U.S. wher=
e everyone is spending and running up debt and no one is saving. =20
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From: Katherine Malm
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 10:05 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Fw: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.
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Hi Gene,
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I was referring to Prechter's stance on stock cycles and doom and gloom b=
ased on Elliott Wave analysis, so was tongue-in-cheek suggesting an econo=
mics text to balance the view. (I think his "Tidal Wave" Bear book came o=
ut in 95 or 96. Add him to the stack with Ravi Batra "The Great Depressio=
n of 1990" and, just to be fair, "Dow 36000" and "Dow 100000"). Either wa=
y, all things are possible.
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Katherine
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PS Scary thought to think anybody's reading Wade Cook for investment advi=
ce.
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PPS...all dogs have their day.
 =20
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From: Gene Ricci =20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =20
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.


Katherine, not sure what a 'real' economics book is... =20
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I also bought O'Higgins book Beating the DJIA with the Dogs of the Dow st=
rategy. Saw more interest in that strategy at yesterday's CANSLIM meeting=
 than I did in what WON had to say. Heck they were even talking about a '=
couch potato' strategy buying indexes.... My longs for tomorrow are: EK, =
XOM, SBC, JPM and IP.... the selections were 'no-brainers' ... http://www=
.dogsofthedow.com/doggish.htm May even buy some more IDA (hot pick 3 or 4=
 weeks ago)... paying about 7%
 =20
As I was leaving the country club one of the CANSLIM members was sitting =
in the lobby reading CASH FLOW and BEYOND by Wade Cook... =20
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From: Katherine Malm =20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =20
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.


Hi Gene,
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Make sure you order some *real* economics books to go with it. :))
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Katherine
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From: Gene Ricci =20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =20
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.


Thanks Tom, this is from amazon.com ..... I just ordered his book...
Gene
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In Conquer the Crash, Robert Prechter explains why he thinks the boom tim=
es are behind us. Based on his interpretation of the Elliott Wave princip=
le (an idea premised on the notion that mass investor psychology is what =
really drives markets), Prechter believes that the U.S. economy is about =
to enter into a deflationary depression that few investors are prepared t=
o deal with. In making his case, Prechter assembles an impressive array o=
f data that in essence suggests that the bill for the last 10 years of ma=
rket excess is about to come due. The second half of the book shows how t=
o avoid becoming "a zombie-eyed victim of the depression" and offers advi=
ce on protecting one's assets in a deflationary environment (cash is king=
). If there's any good news in the future that Prechter sees coming (othe=
r than how to avoid it), it's that all-out depressions don't last very lo=
ng. Conquer the Crash should appeal to gloom-and-doom investors and to th=
ose desperately looking for a safe haven from the uncertainties of today'=
s markets. --Harry C. Edwards =20

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From: Tom Worley =20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =20
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.


I will take a shot at it, but am sure Katherine and others can do a bette=
r job.
 =20
Japan currently is suffering a deflationary recession. The deflation part=
 of that phrase means prices are falling (opposite of inflation). The sec=
ond part means the economy is shrinking. The key concern for investors is=
 that producers cannot raise their prices to improve profits, and at the =
same time the shrinking economy means things are not going to get better =
any time soon.
 =20
A deflationary depression would seem to me to be essentially the same, bu=
t with the economy in even worse shape (I never did get the hang of the d=
ifference between recession and depression, other than the latter lasts l=
onger and hurts more).
 =20
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From: Gene Ricci =20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =20
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.


Tom, can you help me understand deflationary depression?
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Thanks,
Gene

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ackground-color:#ffffff; "><DIV>i read an article that said that one of t=
he problems in Japan is that no on is spending but everyone is saving. Ju=
st the opposite of the U.S. where everyone is spending and running up deb=
t and no one is saving.&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D=
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0pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Katherine Malm</DIV> <DIV style=3D"=
FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2002 10:05 PM</DIV> =
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> canslim@lists.xmission.com</DI=
V> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: [CANSLIM] For Tom =
W.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=3D=
GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE>  <DIV>Hi Gene,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I =
was referring to Prechter's stance on stock cycles and doom and gloom bas=
ed on Elliott Wave analysis, so was tongue-in-cheek suggesting an economi=
cs text to balance the view. (I think his "Tidal Wave" Bear book came out=
 in 95 or 96. Add him to the stack with Ravi Batra "The Great Depression =
of 1990" and, just to be fair, "Dow 36000" and "Dow 100000"). Either way,=
 all things are possible.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Katherine</DIV> <D=
IV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>PS Scary thought to think anybody's reading Wade Coo=
k for investment advice.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>PPS...all dogs have=
 their day.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">-----=
 Original Message -----  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: b=
lack"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.=
net">Gene Ricci</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmiss=
ion.com href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission=
.com</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2002 11:19 PM</DI=
V> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></D=
IV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Katherine, not sure what a 'real' e=
conomics book is...&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">=
</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I&nbsp;also bought =
O'Higgins book Beating the DJIA with the Dogs of the Dow strategy. </FONT=
><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Saw more interest in that strategy at yeste=
rday's CANSLIM meeting than I did in what WON had to say. Heck they were =
even talking about a 'couch potato' strategy buying indexes.... M<FONT fa=
ce=3D"Comic Sans MS">y longs for tomorrow are: <FONT face=3D"Comic Sans M=
S">EK, XOM, SBC, JPM and IP.... the selections were&nbsp;'no-brainers' ..=
. <A href=3D"http://www.dogsofthedow.com/doggish.htm">http://www.dogsofth=
edow.com/doggish.htm</A>&nbsp;May even buy some more IDA (hot pick 3 or 4=
 weeks ago)... paying about 7%</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=
=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">=
As I was leaving the country club one of the CANSLIM members was sitting =
in the lobby reading CASH FLOW and BEYOND by Wade Cook... </FONT></DIV> <=
DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"C=
omic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV=
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; M=
ARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=
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om:</B> <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net=
">Katherine Malm</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=
 title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission=
.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt aria=
l"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2002 10:29 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"F=
ONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.</DIV> <DIV><BR>=
</DIV> <DIV>Hi Gene,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Make sure you order som=
e *real* economics books to go with it. :))</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>=
Katherine</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDIN=
G-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIG=
HT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </=
DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: bla=
ck"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.ne=
t">Gene Ricci</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A ti=
tle=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.co=
m">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">=
<B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2002 9:08 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT:=
 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DI=
V> <DIV><SPAN class=3Dserif><FONT face=3DTimes>Thanks Tom, this is from a=
mazon.com ..... I just ordered his book...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN=
 class=3Dserif><FONT face=3DTimes>Gene</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN cla=
ss=3Dserif><FONT face=3DTimes></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=
=3Dserif><FONT face=3DTimes></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D=
serif><FONT face=3DTimes>In <I>Conquer the Crash</I>, Robert Prechter exp=
lains why he thinks the boom times are behind us. Based on his interpreta=
tion of the Elliott Wave principle (an idea premised on the notion that m=
ass investor psychology is what really drives markets), <STRONG><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff>Prechter believes that the U.S. economy is about to enter in=
to a deflationary depression that few investors are prepared to deal with=
. In making his case, Prechter assembles an impressive array of data that=
 in essence suggests that the bill for the last 10 years of market excess=
 is about to come due.</FONT></STRONG> The second half of the book shows =
how to avoid becoming "a zombie-eyed victim of the depression" and offers=
 advice on protecting one's assets in a deflationary environment (cash is=
 king). If there's any good news in the future that Prechter sees coming =
(other than how to avoid it), it's that all-out depressions don't last ve=
ry long. <I>Conquer the Crash</I> should appeal to gloom-and-doom investo=
rs and to those desperately looking for a safe haven from the uncertainti=
es of today's markets. <I>--Harry C. Edwards</I> </FONT></SPAN><BR></DIV>=
 <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MA=
RGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV =
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=
=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B=
> <A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">=
Tom Worley</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=
=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">=
canslim@lists.xmission.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>=
Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:51 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10=
pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] For Tom W.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> =
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I will take a shot at it, but am sure Katherine a=
nd others can do a better job.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FON=
T>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Japan currently is suffering a def=
lationary recession. The&nbsp;deflation part of that phrase means prices =
are falling (opposite of inflation). The second part means the economy is=
 shrinking. The key concern for investors is that producers cannot raise =
their prices to improve profits, and at the same time the shrinking econo=
my means things are not going to get better any time soon.</FONT></DIV> <=
DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>A defl=
ationary depression would seem to me to be essentially the same, but with=
 the economy in even worse shape (I never did get the hang of the differe=
nce between recession and depression, other than the latter lasts longer =
and hurts more).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>=
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----  <DIV style=
=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dgenr@=
swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene Ricci</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>=
To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com href=3D"mailto:canslim@list=
s.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> S=
unday, September 08, 2002 9:46 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] Fo=
r Tom W.</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">To=
m, can you help me understand&nbsp;deflationary depression?</FONT></DIV> =
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"=
Comic Sans MS">Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gen=
e</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=
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