Re: [CANSLIM] OT 8


From: Gene Ricci <genr@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OT 8
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:57:12 -0600

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Eric, what have I missed? I've received a bunch of email with a subject =
of OT in it.... is there an introduction for them.

Thanks,
Gene
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Eric Jaenike=20
  To: canslim group=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:29 AM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] OT 8


  =20

   Eric Jaenike <ericjaenike@yahoo.com> wrote:=20

    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:09:25 -0800 (PST)
    From: Eric Jaenike=20
    Subject: More shtuff
    To: Anurag , Dale Dumaw ,
    Chris Jaenike , Eric Jaenike ,
    William Jaenike ,
    Vitaliy Katsenelson ,
    Trish McNamara ,
    Sean Mullett , Fritz Reichardt=20


    Couple of other quick data points, and a few insights. CHTR, one of =
the semiconductor industry's top 3 manufacturers, announced Thurs night =
that capacity utilization was down to a stunning 39%. I almost fell over =
when I saw that. Worse than even I thought possible, and I know that =
TSCM is going to 50% utilization by the end of the year. Insight =
Enterprises (NSIT), a reseller of computer gear, also lower 4Q rev. and =
earns.

    Also of note, of course, were the durable goods orders reported =
Friday a.m.. Notably, nondefense capital goods orders, ex-aircraft, were =
down a startling 6.6%. While the number is very volatile, it is yet =
another disconcerting data point. Of course, since this rally has =
nothing to do with the fundamentals, the markets closed up on the day =
(and do I need to point out that tech led the way? Probably not.)

    I also want to point out something about this recent reporting =
period. I don't have as much hard data as I'd like (if someone does, =
please forward it to me), but as I understand it, earnings have come in =
kinda/sorta OK relative to expectations (excluding tech). However, =
revenue growth has been nonexistent. Earnings have been OK because of =
cost cutting. We are done with that benefit, and I think earnings are =
going to be substantially worse going forward. Of note also, of course, =
is that the refinancing benefit has peaked, which bodes ill for consumer =
spending going forward, and thus earnings going forward, especially in =
retail.

    MU has rallied 56% in the past 3 weeks, and now trades at a 21 p/e =
on 2004 expectations (2003 loss expected at $.58). Of course, those =
estimates are probably too optimistic. Hmmm, wonder if that play will =
work out in the long run. Great run we're having in the indices though, =
wouldn't you say? Party on, Garth!

     Another potential threat comes from credit derivatives. This is =
another topic I'm still working to get my arms around, so if anyone has =
good info, please pass it along. Bond holders generally feel secure =
because they own credit insurance. However, there is serious risk =
associated with that credit insurance, as the underwriters might be =
unable to meet their obligations should a number of things go wrong at =
once. A severe contraction in the credit markets could be extremely =
problematic. (Note how corporate spreads have not tightened during the =
recent run in the equity markets). For more on potential derivates =
problems, look at CI and its implosion Friday.

    I think this market is painting a clear picture about what is going =
on. As I said before, its just a question of when, not if.

    Happy hunting,

    Eric

    PS As I write this, KLAC up $1.35 on the day, and has rallied 38% =
since its low in early Oct. Truly pathetic.





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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Eric, what have I missed? I've =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dericjaenike@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:ericjaenike@yahoo.com">Eric=20
  Jaenike</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim group</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 29, 2002 =
11:29=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] OT 8</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P>=20
  <P>&nbsp;<B><I>Eric Jaenike &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:ericjaenike@yahoo.com">ericjaenike@yahoo.com</A>&gt;</I></=
B>=20
  wrote:=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
solid">Date:=20
    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:09:25 -0800 (PST)<BR>From: Eric Jaenike=20
    <ERICJAENIKE@YAHOO.COM><BR>Subject: More shtuff<BR>To: Anurag=20
    <ANURAG@LCPARTNERS.COM>, Dale Dumaw <DDUMAW@INDRA.COM>,<BR>Chris =
Jaenike=20
    <CJAENIKE@SMRH.COM>, Eric Jaenike =
<ERICJAENIKE@YAHOO.COM>,<BR>William=20
    Jaenike <WJAENIKE@AOL.COM>,<BR>Vitaliy Katsenelson=20
    <VITALIY.IMA@USA.NET>,<BR>Trish McNamara=20
    <TRISH@CHERRYCREEKINVESTMENTADVISORS.COM>,<BR>Sean Mullett=20
    <SRMULLETT@EARTHLINK.NET>, Fritz Reichardt <REICHF@AOL.COM><BR><BR>
    <P>Couple of other quick data points, and a few insights. CHTR, one =
of the=20
    semiconductor industry's top 3 manufacturers, announced Thurs night =
that=20
    capacity utilization was down to a stunning 39%. I almost fell over =
when I=20
    saw that. Worse than even I thought possible, and I know that TSCM =
is going=20
    to 50% utilization by the end of the year. Insight Enterprises =
(NSIT), a=20
    reseller of computer gear, also lower 4Q rev. and earns.</P>
    <P>Also of note, of course, were the durable goods orders reported =
Friday=20
    a.m.. Notably, nondefense capital goods orders, ex-aircraft, were =
down a=20
    startling 6.6%. While the number is very volatile, it is yet another =

    disconcerting data point. Of course, since this rally has nothing to =
do with=20
    the fundamentals, the markets closed up on the day (and do I need to =
point=20
    out that tech led the way? Probably not.)</P>
    <P>I also want to point out something about this recent reporting =
period. I=20
    don't have as much hard data as I'd like (if someone does, please =
forward it=20
    to me), but as I understand it, earnings have come in kinda/sorta OK =

    relative to expectations (excluding tech). However, revenue growth =
has been=20
    nonexistent. Earnings have been OK because of cost cutting. We are =
done with=20
    that benefit, and I think earnings are going to be substantially =
worse going=20
    forward. Of note also, of course, is that the refinancing benefit =
has=20
    peaked, which bodes ill for consumer spending going forward, and =
thus=20
    earnings going forward, especially in retail.</P>
    <P>MU has rallied 56% in the past 3 weeks, and now trades at a 21 =
p/e=20
    on&nbsp;2004 expectations (2003 loss expected at $.58). Of course, =
those=20
    estimates are probably too optimistic. Hmmm, wonder if that play =
will work=20
    out in the long run. Great run we're having in the indices though, =
wouldn't=20
    you say? Party on, Garth!</P>
    <P>&nbsp;Another potential threat comes from credit derivatives. =
This is=20
    another topic I'm still working to get my arms around, so&nbsp;if =
anyone has=20
    good info, please pass it along.&nbsp;Bond holders generally feel =
secure=20
    because they own credit insurance. However, there is serious risk =
associated=20
    with that credit insurance, as the underwriters might be unable to =
meet=20
    their obligations should a number of things go wrong at once. A =
severe=20
    contraction in the credit markets could be extremely problematic. =
(Note how=20
    corporate spreads have not tightened during the recent run in the =
equity=20
    markets). For more on potential derivates problems, look at CI and =
its=20
    implosion Friday.</P>
    <P>I think this market is painting a clear picture about what is =
going on.=20
    As I said before, its just a question of when, not if.</P>
    <P>Happy hunting,</P>
    <P>Eric</P>
    <P>PS As I write this, KLAC up $1.35 on the day, and has rallied 38% =
since=20
    its low in early Oct. Truly pathetic.</P>
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