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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:33:56 -0600
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Mike, You are of man of reason! It is my understanding that IBD is =
losing a lot of money each year. Some of you feel like you have been =
shafted by IBD. Maybe, they are fighting for their own survival. Very =
few investors trade the canslim method, and with this vicious bear =
market, there will now be fewer. Just like the postings of this website. =
Happy New Years, David
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mike Gibbons=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] eIBD
Without getting into the controversy over the cost of eIBD, there =
seems to be a fundamental belief displayed here that I think is =
mistaken. That is that the cost to the consumer should bear some =
relationship to the cost of production and distribution. In fact there =
is no such relationship under our capitalist system. Consumers will be =
willing to pay whatever price matches the percieved utility of the =
service offered. In general, speed, convenience and uniqueness command a =
premium. The marketplace will be the judge.
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:15 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] eIBD
Ann, I am SHOCKED!!! Never realized that electrons over the net cost =
more to produce than ink on printed paper, not to mention all the humans =
involved in the paper version. Silly me, I figured since the paper was =
already in electronic form, an electronic version would be considerably =
cheaper than a paper version.
And shame on IBD for blaming the carrier for stopping the home =
delivery service. I wonder if the delivery by electronic means will be =
discontinued as well if there aren't enough online subscribers for a =
particular area??
Tactically, this doesn't seem to be a good marketing ploy to retain =
existing subscribers.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ann=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] eIBD
I received notification today from ibd that my paper will no longer =
be delivered, that it will now come in the mail instead. When I called =
ibd to ask about the change, I was told that my carrier was no longer =
going to deliver ibd, and that I could have two weeks free trying eIBD, =
since I lost my delivery. The guy said that they were doing that for all =
their customers who lost delivery and were going to receive ibd by mail. =
When I asked whether ibd was doing this on purpose to increase eIBD =
customers, the guy laughed and said that my carrier was no longer =
delivering ibd.
But when I called my delivery service, they said that they received =
a letter from ibd recently stating that it was cost-prohibitive for ibd =
to pay to have so few papers delivered to one area, and that they were =
going to mail the paper instead.
So this seems to be part of another big business/marketing move on =
ibd's part.=20
IBD costs 219/year. eIBD costs 295/year. I was told that I could =
have eIBD for the same price as ibd, if I so choose, until my =
subscription runs out. I think I might like the e-version, if it were at =
the same price, but I certainly don't like being railroaded into the =
decision by ibd.
Ann
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tim Katona=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:38 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] eIBD
Hi,=20
While surfing I saw this at investors.com today, new eIBD =
coming soon.
"eIBD is an exact replica of Investor's Business Daily, =
available online within hours of the U.S. market close. Learn how you =
can now access IBD anytime.anywhere."
Happy Holidays!
Tim
Toronto Financial Forum
Learn how to select winning stocks using Investor's Business =
Daily and investors.com.
=20
Date: January 23-26, 2003
=20
Location: Toronto, Ontario
CANADA=20
=20
Visit Investor's Business Daily at the Financial Forum =
event. IBD will be in booth #906 and will also be conducting a free =
workshop. Be among the first to learn about IBD's newest resource, eIBD.
eIBD is an exact replica of Investor's Business Daily, =
available online within hours of the U.S. market close. Learn how you =
can now access IBD anytime.anywhere.
For more information about Financial Forum, including =
registration details, click on the banner below.
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike, You are of man of reason! It =
is my=20
understanding that IBD is losing a lot of money each year. Some of =
you feel=20
like you have been shafted by IBD. Maybe, they are fighting for their =
own=20
survival. Very few investors trade the canslim method, and with this =
vicious=20
bear market, there will now be fewer. Just like the postings of this =
website.=20
Happy New Years, David</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dmike@proactech.com href=3D"mailto:mike@proactech.com">Mike =
Gibbons</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, 2002 =
7:02=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
eIBD</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938434900-31122002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
size=3D2>Without getting into the controversy over the cost of eIBD, =
there seems=20
to be a fundamental belief displayed here that I think is =
mistaken. That=20
is that the cost to the consumer should bear some relationship to the =
cost of=20
production and distribution. In fact there is no such relationship =
under our=20
capitalist system. Consumers will be willing to pay whatever price =
matches the=20
percieved utility of the service offered. In general, speed, =
convenience and=20
uniqueness command a premium. The marketplace will be the=20
judge.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938434900-31122002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Aloha,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Mike =
Gibbons</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Proactive =
Technologies,=20
LLC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080=20
size=3D2>http://www.proactech.com</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom=20
Worley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, 2002 2:15 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM]=20
eIBD<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ann, I am SHOCKED!!! Never realized that =
electrons=20
over the net cost more to produce than ink on printed paper, not to =
mention=20
all the humans involved in the paper version. Silly me, I figured =
since the=20
paper was already in electronic form, an electronic version would be =
considerably cheaper than a paper version.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>And shame on IBD for blaming the carrier for =
stopping=20
the home delivery service. I wonder if the delivery by electronic =
means will=20
be discontinued as well if there aren't enough online subscribers =
for a=20
particular area??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tactically, this doesn't seem to be a good =
marketing=20
ploy to retain existing subscribers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
title=3Dannholly@attbi.com =
href=3D"mailto:annholly@attbi.com">Ann</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, 2002 4:22 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] eIBD</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I received notification today from ibd that my =
paper will=20
no longer be delivered, that it will now come in the mail instead. =
When I=20
called ibd to ask about the change, I was told that my carrier was =
no longer=20
going to deliver ibd, and that I could have two weeks free =
trying eIBD,=20
since I lost my delivery. The guy said that they were doing that for =
all=20
their customers who lost delivery and were going to receive ibd by =
mail.=20
When I asked whether ibd was doing this on purpose to increase eIBD=20
customers, the guy laughed and said that my carrier was no longer =
delivering=20
ibd.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>But when I called my delivery service, they said =
that they=20
received a letter from ibd recently stating that it was =
cost-prohibitive for=20
ibd to pay to have so few papers delivered to one area, and =
that they=20
were going to mail the paper instead.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So this seems to be part of another big =
business/marketing=20
move on ibd's part. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>IBD costs 219/year. eIBD costs 295/year. I was =
told that I=20
could have eIBD for the same price as ibd, if I so choose, until my=20
subscription runs out. I think I might like the e-version, if it =
were at the=20
same price, but I certainly don't like being railroaded into the =
decision by=20
ibd.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ann</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dtkat17@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:tkat17@earthlink.net">Tim=20
Katona</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, =
2002 1:38=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] =
eIBD</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D"80%" border=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD colSpan=3D2><FONT size=3D2>
<DIV class=3Dtxthead><SPAN class=3D798373418-30122002><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2> Hi, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dtxthead><SPAN class=3D798373418-30122002><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>While surfing I saw this at =
investors.com=20
today, new eIBD coming soon.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dtxthead><SPAN class=3D798373418-30122002><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=3Dtxthead><SPAN class=3D798373418-30122002><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>"</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D798373418-30122002><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>eIBD is an exact replica of =
Investor=92s=20
Business Daily, available online within hours of the U.S. =
market=20
close. Learn how you can now access IBD=20
anytime=85anywhere."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dtxthead><SPAN class=3D798373418-30122002><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=3Dtxthead><SPAN class=3D798373418-30122002><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Happy Holidays!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dtxthead><SPAN class=3D798373418-30122002><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Tim</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<H2 class=3Dtxthead><SPAN =
class=3D798373418-30122002></SPAN> </H2>
<H2 class=3Dtxthead><SPAN=20
class=3D798373418-30122002> </SPAN>Toronto Financial =
Forum</H2>
<P class=3Dtxtsub>Learn how to select winning stocks using =
Investor's=20
Business Daily and investors.com.</P></FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=3Dtop>
<TD class=3Dcopy width=3D"15%"><FONT =
size=3D2><B>Date:</B></FONT></TD>
<TD class=3Dcopy><FONT size=3D2>January=20
23=9626, 2003<BR> </FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=3Dtop>
<TD class=3Dcopy><FONT =
size=3D2><B>Location: </B></FONT></TD>
<TD class=3Dcopy><FONT =
size=3D2>Toronto, Ontario<BR>CANADA=20
<BR> </FONT></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD colSpan=3D2><FONT size=3D2>
<P>Visit Investor=92s Business Daily at the Financial Forum =
event. IBD=20
will be in booth #906 and will also be conducting a free =
workshop.=20
Be among the first to learn about IBD=92s newest resource, =
eIBD.</P>
<P>eIBD is an exact replica of Investor=92s Business Daily, =
available=20
online within hours of the U.S. market close. Learn how you =
can now=20
access IBD anytime=85anywhere.</P>
<P>For more information about Financial Forum, including=20
registration details, click on the banner=20
=
below.</P></FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BL=
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