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I'd be careful about making that assumption. NBTY and IFF are very =
different companies.
Jon
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From: c bourgeois=20
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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Opinion on IFF
Jans,=20
Thanks for your response. I admit I didn't look very closely at the =
fundamentals myself because I rely on IBD to do that for me. Shame on =
me. :) If NBTY continues in an uptrend, my thinking is that it will =
pull IFF with it. My plan would be to get in at the buy point and ride =
up for the short term as long as I don't get any negative signals and as =
long as NBTY stays strong. Alternatively, if I decide on NBTY it =
appears that I will have to wait for a pullback to find a buy point, =
right?=20
Spencer48@aol.com wrote:=20
Cindy:
While the chart is not as nice looking as NBTY (in my opinion), it=20
doesn't look like a hazardous waste dump.=20
However, the fundamentals don't look that great (eg, earnings, =
debt).=20
Also, I generally like management to own a greater percent of the =
stock than=20
do funds.
But this is why I would go more towards NBTY (besides the =
fundamentals=20
and superior chart appearance of NBTY). NBTY is a manf. and =
distributer of=20
nutrients. In my opinion, this is an up-and-coming baby boom field.=20
Baby-Boomers (besides wanting to live longer) are going to want to =
be healthy=20
as they live longer. NBTY fills that demand. IFF (cosmetics) =
provides only=20
a bandaid for that which (I believe) baby-boomers will be avid: =
Eternal=20
Youth (or at least as eternal as possible).=20
I'd wait for the market to get better (WON's stats say that over 75% =
of=20
sto! cks fall during a bear; now we may not be in a bear, but that =
doesn't mean=20
we're in a bull. The market could just fluctuate in a tight range =
for weeks=20
or months just below the 200 DMA resistance.) Moreover, as I said, =
I'd focus=20
more on NBTY than IFF.=20
jans=20
In a message dated 1/9/2003 6:47:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20
uptickchick2003@yahoo.com writes:
<< I was checking out NBTY this morning on IBD and noticed that a =
related=20
company IFF, has formed a perfect cup and may be forming a handle =
now. I am=20
new to investing and tech analysis...does this bear watching? I am =
ready to=20
pounce :)
Cindy >>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd be careful about making that =
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<P>Jans,=20
<P>Thanks for your response. I admit I didn't look very closely =
at the=20
fundamentals myself because I rely on IBD to do that for me. =
Shame on=20
me. :) If NBTY continues in an uptrend, my thinking is that it =
will pull=20
IFF with it. My plan would be to get in at the buy point and =
ride up for=20
the short term as long as I don't get any negative signals and as long =
as NBTY=20
stays strong. Alternatively, if I decide on NBTY it appears that =
I will=20
have to wait for a pullback to find a buy point, right?=20
<P> <B><I>Spencer48@aol.com</I></B> wrote:=20
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style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
solid">Cindy:<BR><BR>While=20
the chart is not as nice looking as NBTY (in my opinion), it =
<BR>doesn't=20
look like a hazardous waste dump. <BR><BR>However, the fundamentals =
don't=20
look that great (eg, earnings, debt). <BR>Also, I generally like =
management=20
to own a greater percent of the stock than <BR>do funds.<BR><BR>But =
this is=20
why I would go more towards NBTY (besides the fundamentals <BR>and =
superior=20
chart appearance of NBTY). NBTY is a manf. and distributer of =
<BR>nutrients.=20
In my opinion, this is an up-and-coming baby boom field. =
<BR>Baby-Boomers=20
(besides wanting to live longer) are going to want to be healthy =
<BR>as they=20
live longer. NBTY fills that demand. IFF (cosmetics) provides only =
<BR>a=20
bandaid for that which (I believe) baby-boomers will be avid: =
Eternal=20
<BR>Youth (or at least as eternal as possible). <BR><BR>I'd wait for =
the=20
market to get better (WON's stats say that over 75% of <BR>sto! cks =
fall=20
during a bear; now we may not be in a bear, but that doesn't mean =
<BR>we're=20
in a bull. The market could just fluctuate in a tight range for =
weeks <BR>or=20
months just below the 200 DMA resistance.) Moreover, as I said, I'd =
focus=20
<BR>more on NBTY than IFF. <BR><BR>jans <BR><BR><BR>In a message =
dated=20
1/9/2003 6:47:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, =
<BR>uptickchick2003@yahoo.com=20
writes:<BR><BR><< I was checking out NBTY this morning on IBD =
and=20
noticed that a related <BR>company IFF, has formed a perfect cup and =
may be=20
forming a handle now. I am <BR>new to investing and tech =
analysis...does=20
this bear watching? I am ready to <BR>pounce :)<BR><BR>Cindy=20
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