Re: [CANSLIM] Taking Offense - I don't think Jans was offended...


From: Jeff Salisbury <Jeff.Salisbury@Independent401kAdvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Taking Offense - I don't think Jans was offended...
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:40:41 -0700

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Take it easy on Jans -- I didn't post this to the group to try to make 
an example out of him.  Rather, I thought he brought up some valid 
concerns -- and he was not the only one.  I just wanted the group to be 
informed of the behind- the-scenes issues, and thought it would be 
valuable to let the group see the information.

Regards,

Jeff

Edward W. Gjertsen II wrote:

>I think first and foremost we all need to remember that this is Jeff's
>world: his list, not ours.  We have the privilege to add our thoughts
>and comments here because Jeff allows it.  If Jeff wanted to "screen"
>responses, it would be his prerogative.  
>
>This  is a classic case of an individual overreacting prior to getting
>all the facts:  A bad habit good traders/investors should stay away
>from.  I applaud Jeff in his efforts and again, if it wasn't for him, we
>all would be just reading IBD at face value.  (Ooh - that sent shivers
>down my spine).  So, thank you Jeff!
>
>Ed Gjertsen II
>ed@macktracks.com
> 
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>From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Salisbury
>Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:36 PM
>To: Spencer48@aol.com
>Cc: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: [CANSLIM] More on the new list-server software
>
>
>
>Spencer48@aol.com wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Jeff (if this is you):
>>
>>    Why is my post being upheld for so long?  It is now nearly 5 PM, a
>>    
>>
>day 
>  
>
>>later.  
>>
>>    Also, I didn't know that the CANSLIM forum is a "restricted list".
>>
>>    And  my letter "...being held until the list moderator can review
>>    
>>
>it for 
>  
>
>>approval" sounds like something a CENSOR would love.  Every time I
>>    
>>
>write in 
>  
>
>>the future to the CANSLIM forum, am I now going to have to go through a
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>gatekeeper?
>>
>>    If this is an example of the new address you were talking about, I
>>    
>>
>don't 
>  
>
>>like it.  As a matter of fact, if I had known this could be the
>>    
>>
>possible 
>  
>
>>fallout, I wouldn't have agreed so readily to the new ISP.
>>
>>    I liked the free interchange of ideas in the CANSLIM forum, but
>>    
>>
>I'm not 
>  
>
>>sure that I'll like this new wrinkle (as a matter of fact, I'm pretty
>>    
>>
>certain 
>  
>
>>that I won't):  It's like asking my parents for the keys to the car-and
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>waiting a day or so later for their reply.
>>
>>jans
>>
>>    
>>
>Hi Jans,
>
>Hold your horses there partner!   ;-)     It isn't what you think...
>;-)
>
>What I've done is subscribe the new list-server's email address to the 
>old canslim's distribution list.  I did this so that current messages 
>will distribute through the new list-serve.  Currently, I'm the only one
>
>that is subscribed to the new list-server, everybody else is still 
>subscribed to the old list-server and the server is still working as it 
>always has.  You and all other subscribers do not need to do anything 
>differently at this point.
>
>The message you received that your posting is awaiting approval is the 
>new list-serve telling you that your posting is being held for approval 
>(the old list-server had already sent out your message).  Other people 
>who have posted in the last 24-48 hours have seen the same thing.  I've 
>subsequently turned the notification message off to help allivate the 
>confusion.
>
>Two things to keep in mind regarding your posting:
>
>1) It was delivered immediatly to everybody via the old list-server and 
>was not held up in any way to the group.
>
>2) The old list-server delivered a copy of your message to the new 
>list-server.  I'm currently the only one subscribed to the new 
>list-server.  However, the new list-server didn't recognize you has a 
>current member (because you aren't subscribed to the new list-server 
>yet) and held up your message to be approved.  It then sent you a 
>message saying your posting was being held for approval.
>
>I don't know if this helped explain things or if it confused you more. 
> Regardless, just keep these things in mind:
>
>1) The same old canslim list-server is still in place and will be until 
>I indicate otherwise.
>
>2) I won't make the transition unless or until:
> 
>  a) I'm confident that the new list-server will give us equal or better
>
>service.
>
>  b) The transition can be done in a smooth manner.
>
>3) I will continue experiementing in ways that will not disrupt the 
>operations of the old list-server, but in ways that may raise questions 
>or cause confusion from time to time.  You're not the only person to be 
>confused by my experimentation.
>
>4) I may conclude in the end to not make the switch.  However, at this 
>point I am leaning to making the switch.
>
>5) Once I'm satisfied the move will be good, I'll throw the switch and 
>we'll all move over to the new list-server en-mass.   I won't do this 
>without letting everyone know a date and a time well ahead of time.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jeff - canslim admin/owner
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Take it easy on Jans -- I didn't post this to the group to try to make
an example out of him. &nbsp;Rather, I thought he brought up some valid
concerns -- and he was not the only one. &nbsp;I just wanted the group to be
informed of the behind- the-scenes issues, and thought it would be
valuable to let the group see the information.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
Edward W. Gjertsen II wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid00b101c2cd6c$704bc0d0$0701a8c0@edscomputer">
  <pre wrap="">I think first and foremost we all need to remember that this is Jeff's
world: his list, not ours.  We have the privilege to add our thoughts
and comments here because Jeff allows it.  If Jeff wanted to "screen"
responses, it would be his prerogative.  

This  is a classic case of an individual overreacting prior to getting
all the facts:  A bad habit good traders/investors should stay away
from.  I applaud Jeff in his efforts and again, if it wasn't for him, we
all would be just reading IBD at face value.  (Ooh - that sent shivers
down my spine).  So, thank you Jeff!

Ed Gjertsen II
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ed@macktracks.com">ed@macktracks.com</a>
 
 
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>] On Behalf Of Jeff Salisbury
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:36 PM
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Spencer48@aol.com">Spencer48@aol.com</a>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
Subject: [CANSLIM] More on the new list-server software



<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Spencer48@aol.com">Spencer48@aol.com</a> wrote:

  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">Jeff (if this is you):

    Why is my post being upheld for so long?  It is now nearly 5 PM, a
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->day 
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">later.  

    Also, I didn't know that the CANSLIM forum is a "restricted list".

    And  my letter "...being held until the list moderator can review
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->it for 
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">approval" sounds like something a CENSOR would love.  Every time I
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->write in 
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">the future to the CANSLIM forum, am I now going to have to go through a
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">gatekeeper?

    If this is an example of the new address you were talking about, I
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->don't 
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">like it.  As a matter of fact, if I had known this could be the
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->possible 
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">fallout, I wouldn't have agreed so readily to the new ISP.

    I liked the free interchange of ideas in the CANSLIM forum, but
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->I'm not 
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">sure that I'll like this new wrinkle (as a matter of fact, I'm pretty
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->certain 
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">that I won't):  It's like asking my parents for the keys to the car-and
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">waiting a day or so later for their reply.

jans

    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->Hi Jans,

Hold your horses there partner!   ;-)     It isn't what you think...
;-)

What I've done is subscribe the new list-server's email address to the 
old canslim's distribution list.  I did this so that current messages 
will distribute through the new list-serve.  Currently, I'm the only one

that is subscribed to the new list-server, everybody else is still 
subscribed to the old list-server and the server is still working as it 
always has.  You and all other subscribers do not need to do anything 
differently at this point.

The message you received that your posting is awaiting approval is the 
new list-serve telling you that your posting is being held for approval 
(the old list-server had already sent out your message).  Other people 
who have posted in the last 24-48 hours have seen the same thing.  I've 
subsequently turned the notification message off to help allivate the 
confusion.

Two things to keep in mind regarding your posting:

1) It was delivered immediatly to everybody via the old list-server and 
was not held up in any way to the group.

2) The old list-server delivered a copy of your message to the new 
list-server.  I'm currently the only one subscribed to the new 
list-server.  However, the new list-server didn't recognize you has a 
current member (because you aren't subscribed to the new list-server 
yet) and held up your message to be approved.  It then sent you a 
message saying your posting was being held for approval.

I don't know if this helped explain things or if it confused you more. 
 Regardless, just keep these things in mind:

1) The same old canslim list-server is still in place and will be until 
I indicate otherwise.

2) I won't make the transition unless or until:
 
  a) I'm confident that the new list-server will give us equal or better

service.

  b) The transition can be done in a smooth manner.

3) I will continue experiementing in ways that will not disrupt the 
operations of the old list-server, but in ways that may raise questions 
or cause confusion from time to time.  You're not the only person to be 
confused by my experimentation.

4) I may conclude in the end to not make the switch.  However, at this 
point I am leaning to making the switch.

5) Once I'm satisfied the move will be good, I'll throw the switch and 
we'll all move over to the new list-server en-mass.   I won't do this 
without letting everyone know a date and a time well ahead of time.

Regards,

Jeff - canslim admin/owner







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