Re: [CANSLIM] Taking Offense


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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Taking Offense
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:50:58 -0800

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I don't want to get in hot water here but Jeff did ask everyone what they=
 thought about the whole situation -and Jans just told him. I'm sure if h=
e knew it was a technical problem and not the way the new list was going =
to function, his response would have been different. Just a thought Nancy

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:42 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Taking Offense

I agree with Jeff's reply, I guessed the notice I got (same as jans) was
related to the new software, and just emailed Jeff directly about it. I h=
ad
already seen my post show up in the usual quick fashion, so knew it was n=
ot
being held.

Besides, as Ed says, it's Jeff's list, and his choice and decision on
switching. It's not up to a majority vote, those that don't like it don't
have to continue. And his ability to monitor, control even when necessary=
,
has not only helped snuff out the few flames we have had over the years, =
but
also makes it possible for this to remain an unmoderated board.

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From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" <ed@macktracks.com>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:15 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Taking Offense


I think first and foremost we all need to remember that this is Jeff's
world: his list, not ours.  We have the privilege to add our thoughts
and comments here because Jeff allows it.  If Jeff wanted to "screen"
responses, it would be his prerogative.

This  is a classic case of an individual overreacting prior to getting
all the facts:  A bad habit good traders/investors should stay away
from.  I applaud Jeff in his efforts and again, if it wasn't for him, we
all would be just reading IBD at face value.  (Ooh - that sent shivers
down my spine).  So, thank you Jeff!

Ed Gjertsen II
ed@macktracks.com


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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Salisbury
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:36 PM
To: Spencer48@aol.com
Cc: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] More on the new list-server software



Spencer48@aol.com wrote:

>Jeff (if this is you):
>
>     Why is my post being upheld for so long?  It is now nearly 5 PM, a
day
>later.
>
>     Also, I didn't know that the CANSLIM forum is a "restricted list".
>
>     And  my letter "...being held until the list moderator can review
it for
>approval" sounds like something a CENSOR would love.  Every time I
write in
>the future to the CANSLIM forum, am I now going to have to go through a

>gatekeeper?
>
>     If this is an example of the new address you were talking about, I
don't
>like it.  As a matter of fact, if I had known this could be the
possible
>fallout, I wouldn't have agreed so readily to the new ISP.
>
>     I liked the free interchange of ideas in the CANSLIM forum, but
I'm not
>sure that I'll like this new wrinkle (as a matter of fact, I'm pretty
certain
>that I won't):  It's like asking my parents for the keys to the car-and

>waiting a day or so later for their reply.
>
>jans
>
Hi Jans,

Hold your horses there partner!   ;-)     It isn't what you think...
;-)

What I've done is subscribe the new list-server's email address to the
old canslim's distribution list.  I did this so that current messages
will distribute through the new list-serve.  Currently, I'm the only one

that is subscribed to the new list-server, everybody else is still
subscribed to the old list-server and the server is still working as it
always has.  You and all other subscribers do not need to do anything
differently at this point.

The message you received that your posting is awaiting approval is the
new list-serve telling you that your posting is being held for approval
(the old list-server had already sent out your message).  Other people
who have posted in the last 24-48 hours have seen the same thing.  I've
subsequently turned the notification message off to help allivate the
confusion.

Two things to keep in mind regarding your posting:

1) It was delivered immediatly to everybody via the old list-server and
was not held up in any way to the group.

2) The old list-server delivered a copy of your message to the new
list-server.  I'm currently the only one subscribed to the new
list-server.  However, the new list-server didn't recognize you has a
current member (because you aren't subscribed to the new list-server
yet) and held up your message to be approved.  It then sent you a
message saying your posting was being held for approval.

I don't know if this helped explain things or if it confused you more.
Regardless, just keep these things in mind:

1) The same old canslim list-server is still in place and will be until
I indicate otherwise.

2) I won't make the transition unless or until:

  a) I'm confident that the new list-server will give us equal or better

service.

  b) The transition can be done in a smooth manner.

3) I will continue experiementing in ways that will not disrupt the
operations of the old list-server, but in ways that may raise questions
or cause confusion from time to time.  You're not the only person to be
confused by my experimentation.

4) I may conclude in the end to not make the switch.  However, at this
point I am leaning to making the switch.

5) Once I'm satisfied the move will be good, I'll throw the switch and
we'll all move over to the new list-server en-mass.   I won't do this
without letting everyone know a date and a time well ahead of time.

Regards,

Jeff - canslim admin/owner







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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>I don't want t=
o get in hot water here but Jeff did ask everyone what they thought about=
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a technical problem and not the way the new list was going to function, h=
is response would have been different. Just a thought Nancy</DIV> <DIV>&n=
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"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Tom Wo=
rley</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, Februa=
ry 05, 2003 9:42 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> cans=
lim@lists.xmission.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:<=
/B> Re: [CANSLIM] Taking Offense</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>I agree with Jeff=
's reply, I guessed the notice I got (same as jans) was<BR>related to the=
 new software, and just emailed Jeff directly about it. I had<BR>already =
seen my post show up in the usual quick fashion, so knew it was not<BR>be=
ing held.<BR><BR>Besides, as Ed says, it's Jeff's list, and his choice an=
d decision on<BR>switching. It's not up to a majority vote, those that do=
n't like it don't<BR>have to continue. And his ability to monitor, contro=
l even when necessary,<BR>has not only helped snuff out the few flames we=
 have had over the years, but<BR>also makes it possible for this to remai=
n an unmoderated board.<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Edw=
ard W. Gjertsen II" &lt;ed@macktracks.com&gt;<BR>To: &lt;canslim@lists.xm=
ission.com&gt;<BR>Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:15 PM<BR>Subject: =
[CANSLIM] Taking Offense<BR><BR><BR>I think first and foremost we all nee=
d to remember that this is Jeff's<BR>world: his list, not ours.&nbsp; We =
have the privilege to add our thoughts<BR>and comments here because Jeff =
allows it.&nbsp; If Jeff wanted to "screen"<BR>responses, it would be his=
 prerogative.<BR><BR>This&nbsp; is a classic case of an individual overre=
acting prior to getting<BR>all the facts:&nbsp; A bad habit good traders/=
investors should stay away<BR>from.&nbsp; I applaud Jeff in his efforts a=
nd again, if it wasn't for him, we<BR>all would be just reading IBD at fa=
ce value.&nbsp; (Ooh - that sent shivers<BR>down my spine).&nbsp; So, tha=
nk you Jeff!<BR><BR>Ed Gjertsen II<BR>ed@macktracks.com<BR><BR><BR>Confid=
entiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments,<BR>is f=
or the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain<BR>confident=
ial and privileged information.&nbsp; Any unauthorized review, use,<BR>di=
sclosure or distribution is prohibited.&nbsp; If you are not the intended=
<BR>recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all<=
BR>copies of the original message.<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<=
BR>From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.=
xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Salisbury<BR>Sent: Wednesday, February 05=
, 2003 4:36 PM<BR>To: Spencer48@aol.com<BR>Cc: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
<BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] More on the new list-server software<BR><BR><BR><B=
R>Spencer48@aol.com wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;Jeff (if this is you):<BR>&gt;<BR>&=
gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Why is my post being upheld for so long?&nbsp=
; It is now nearly 5 PM, a<BR>day<BR>&gt;later.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Also, I didn't know that the CANSLIM forum is a "restricte=
d list".<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; And&nbsp; my letter "...=
being held until the list moderator can review<BR>it for<BR>&gt;approval"=
 sounds like something a CENSOR would love.&nbsp; Every time I<BR>write i=
n<BR>&gt;the future to the CANSLIM forum, am I now going to have to go th=
rough a<BR><BR>&gt;gatekeeper?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If=
 this is an example of the new address you were talking about, I<BR>don't=
<BR>&gt;like it.&nbsp; As a matter of fact, if I had known this could be =
the<BR>possible<BR>&gt;fallout, I wouldn't have agreed so readily to the =
new ISP.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I liked the free interch=
ange of ideas in the CANSLIM forum, but<BR>I'm not<BR>&gt;sure that I'll =
like this new wrinkle (as a matter of fact, I'm pretty<BR>certain<BR>&gt;=
that I won't):&nbsp; It's like asking my parents for the keys to the car-=
and<BR><BR>&gt;waiting a day or so later for their reply.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=
jans<BR>&gt;<BR>Hi Jans,<BR><BR>Hold your horses there partner!&nbsp;&nbs=
p; ;-)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It isn't what you think...<BR>;-)<BR><BR>W=
hat I've done is subscribe the new list-server's email address to the<BR>=
old canslim's distribution list.&nbsp; I did this so that current message=
s<BR>will distribute through the new list-serve.&nbsp; Currently, I'm the=
 only one<BR><BR>that is subscribed to the new list-server, everybody els=
e is still<BR>subscribed to the old list-server and the server is still w=
orking as it<BR>always has.&nbsp; You and all other subscribers do not ne=
ed to do anything<BR>differently at this point.<BR><BR>The message you re=
ceived that your posting is awaiting approval is the<BR>new list-serve te=
lling you that your posting is being held for approval<BR>(the old list-s=
erver had already sent out your message).&nbsp; Other people<BR>who have =
posted in the last 24-48 hours have seen the same thing.&nbsp; I've<BR>su=
bsequently turned the notification message off to help allivate the<BR>co=
nfusion.<BR><BR>Two things to keep in mind regarding your posting:<BR><BR=
>1) It was delivered immediatly to everybody via the old list-server and<=
BR>was not held up in any way to the group.<BR><BR>2) The old list-server=
 delivered a copy of your message to the new<BR>list-server.&nbsp; I'm cu=
rrently the only one subscribed to the new<BR>list-server.&nbsp; However,=
 the new list-server didn't recognize you has a<BR>current member (becaus=
e you aren't subscribed to the new list-server<BR>yet) and held up your m=
essage to be approved.&nbsp; It then sent you a<BR>message saying your po=
sting was being held for approval.<BR><BR>I don't know if this helped exp=
lain things or if it confused you more.<BR>Regardless, just keep these th=
ings in mind:<BR><BR>1) The same old canslim list-server is still in plac=
e and will be until<BR>I indicate otherwise.<BR><BR>2) I won't make the t=
ransition unless or until:<BR><BR>&nbsp; a) I'm confident that the new li=
st-server will give us equal or better<BR><BR>service.<BR><BR>&nbsp; b) T=
he transition can be done in a smooth manner.<BR><BR>3) I will continue e=
xperiementing in ways that will not disrupt the<BR>operations of the old =
list-server, but in ways that may raise questions<BR>or cause confusion f=
rom time to time.&nbsp; You're not the only person to be<BR>confused by m=
y experimentation.<BR><BR>4) I may conclude in the end to not make the sw=
itch.&nbsp; However, at this<BR>point I am leaning to making the switch.<=
BR><BR>5) Once I'm satisfied the move will be good, I'll throw the switch=
 and<BR>we'll all move over to the new list-server en-mass.&nbsp;&nbsp; I=
 won't do this<BR>without letting everyone know a date and a time well ah=
ead of time.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeff - canslim admin/owner<BR><BR><BR=
><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-<BR>-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmi=
ssion.com"<BR>-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>-"unsub=
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