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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:42:18 -0600
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Hi Mike,
This functionality will be added to our existing service, though we have not
yet finalized which level it will be included. You can see the subscription
rates for Gold, Silver and Platinum levels at the site (www.cwhcharts.com)
under the "Subscription" menu.
If there are any others who have specific questions about the service,
please contact me offline so as not to stray off topic on the list.
Katherine
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:05 AM
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
Katherine,
How much will it cost for this functionality at your site?
Thanks
Mike
Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com
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IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
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03/13/2003 11:12 PM
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canslim
Hi Nancy,
The short answer to your question is, yes, we intend to add the very thing
you are asking about. As you know, I'm a big believer in looking for
*rising* industry strength. Without going into detail, we will be ranking
each industry, but will be doing so a little differently than the IBD. That
is, the IBD looks only at weighted average price movement for the stocks in
the industry to derive their industry rankings. Ours will be ever so
slightly more comprehensive, but enough that it more clearly demonstrates
the movement of the industry. Currently, subscribers at the site can click
on an industry and see all the stocks in the industry ranked in RSRank
order. The industry ranking itself will be in place in the near future,
along with a charting feature, which is as I understand it, is exactly what
you are looking for.
Here's an example, though don't pay much attention to the actual numbers in
this particular chart, as it was generated before we finalized our industry
ranking system.
http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/SampleIndustryChart.JPG
Katherine
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
thanks katherine-will you new additions have this kind of info sort? I
cant believe people dont offer this. If you have an industry in front
of you and you see monthly it has moved up 10 spaces a month, it
started at 195 and now in 1 year its at 75-barring something drastic
like the airline situation-it seems like it would then be time to
start researching the industry and the stocks within
it(charts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready and get in early on the
forward progress. Thanks again for the info nancy
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From: Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:06 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
Hi Nancy,
The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a
pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of
the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or
equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely
fashion, but otherwise no different in form.
In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD
products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700
per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of
that (an additional $200/yr).
The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to
subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially
equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis
tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the
ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com)
and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools
which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core
product offering.
Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their
various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts
has an industry page where they show the %price change for each
industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how
you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much
money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time,
money and analysis tools.
Katherine
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added
if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your
computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was
updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new
40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new
additions from another site list of industries groups(like the
one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) .
Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see
how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis.
Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172
of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an
easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is
listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search
out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month
and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a
better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to
focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy
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From: Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and
you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but
it costs you $40 each time you do it!!!
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom
Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that
they would not alert you when your last download went out
of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40
and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to
make a change every few weeks rather than the major
updates only done 2-3 times a year.
What a gimmick!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Malm
To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
Hi All,
The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up
fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new
reference.
IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their
Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available
each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the
printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as
you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download.
http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp
Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings,
especially just after a major change in industry groupings
as they had last week.
Katherine
PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups,
they are:
Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name
change, you will see the groups listed next to each other.
For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into
one.
Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries
Computer-Optical
Recogtn
Elec-Control
Instruments
Elec-Laser
Sys/Component
Comml Svcs-Consulting
Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch
Media-Diversified
Retail-Leisure Products
Telecom-Wireless Equip
Elec-Contract Mfg
Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-Components
Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics
Fiber Optic Networks
Elec-Measrng Elec-Scientific/Msrng
Instruments
Elec-Scientific
Instrmnt
Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services
Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design
Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage
Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg
Retail/Whlsle-Auto Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts
Parts
Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg
Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous
Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe
Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns
Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec
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