Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03


From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:05:24 -0500

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Chuck, essentially I agree. However, that said, CANSLIM is designed to =
reduce risk and increase probability of making money for the majority. =
It works best in a bull market trend, but it still works (albeit with =
more risk, more work and substantially heightened frequency of failure) =
for the long term investor even in a continuing bear market such as we =
have had. Pure CANSLIM won't do this, sticking strictly to the =
conservative rules designed to enhance probability of success for the =
majority of investors with limited investing or CANSLIM experience =
dictates being out of the market during a bear trend.

For most CANSLIMers, it has been a period of cash and hibernation the =
past several years, and maybe for some years yet to come. Some investors =
needing / wanting to be in the markets will have to change style and =
strategy, converting from investing to day or short term trading. Some =
will "reinvent" CANSLIM, and use it as a gauge in order to trade the =
short side of the markets. Some, like myself, will stay on the long =
side, but modify the rules of CANSLIM, take more risk, and obtain less =
return even with more work.

Bottom line, CANSLIM is not dead by any means, not in this bear market, =
not in any past bears, and not likely for future bears as well.

- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: Charles & Lois Layne=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: dlawson=20


  Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and the death of CANSLIM. Won never =
said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied bull market rally. He =
said that a major bull market rally never occurred without a B.O.! As =
for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have basically thrown a =
dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your answer =
as to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion.
  Dave


I don't follow declarations that CANSLIM is 'dead.'  I don't believe =
that WON has ever written/said that CANSLIM will work in all market =
seasons.  Indeed, he is rather specific concerning the futility of =
trying to win from CANSLIM in bear markets.  Apparently, some try to =
find bull-type breakouts, fall prey to bear market dynamics, and then =
have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM is dead.

No single investment or trading discipline works in every market =
dynamic.  Sometimes the market dynamics reward one style and punish =
another.  The disciplined investor or trader recognizes what he/she is =
trying to accomplish, what the market & world conditions are, and =
applies the best disciplined approach she/he can.  If one is applying =
only CANSLIM disciplines, then one would be out of a bear market, =
researching and waiting for the return of a validated bull market.  =
That's what I remember from WON, anyway.

Chuck Layne

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Chuck, essentially I agree. However, that said, =
CANSLIM is=20
designed to reduce risk and increase probability of making money for the =

majority. It works best in a bull market trend, but it still works =
(albeit with=20
more risk, more work&nbsp;and substantially heightened frequency of =
failure) for=20
the long term investor even in a continuing bear market such as we have =
had.=20
Pure CANSLIM won't do this, sticking strictly to the conservative rules =
designed=20
to enhance probability of success for the majority of investors with =
limited=20
investing or CANSLIM experience dictates being out of the market during =
a bear=20
trend.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>For most CANSLIMers, it has been a period of =
cash and=20
hibernation the past several years, and maybe for some years yet to =
come. Some=20
investors needing / wanting to be in the markets will have to change =
style and=20
strategy, converting from investing to day or short term trading. Some =
will=20
"reinvent" CANSLIM, and use it as a gauge in order to trade the short =
side of=20
the markets. Some, like myself, will stay on the long side, but modify =
the rules=20
of CANSLIM, take more risk, and obtain less return even with more=20
work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Bottom line, CANSLIM is not dead by any means, =
not in this=20
bear market, not in any past bears, and not likely for future bears as=20
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dlelayne@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:lelayne@earthlink.net">Charles &amp;=20
Lois Layne</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:18 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List =
3/17/03</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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  <A title=3Ddlawson92@comcast.net =
href=3D"mailto:dlawson92@comcast.net">dlawson</A>=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and =
the death=20
  of CANSLIM. Won never said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied =
bull=20
  market rally. He said that a major bull market rally never occurred =
without a=20
  B.O.! As for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have =
basically thrown=20
  a dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your =
answer as=20
  to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D171303916-23022003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D171303916-23022003><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I don't=20
follow declarations that CANSLIM is 'dead.'&nbsp; I don't believe that =
WON has=20
ever written/said that CANSLIM will work in all market seasons.&nbsp; =
Indeed, he=20
is rather specific concerning the futility of trying to win from CANSLIM =
in bear=20
markets.&nbsp; Apparently, some try to find bull-type breakouts, fall =
prey to=20
bear market dynamics, and then have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM =
is=20
dead.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D171303916-23022003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D171303916-23022003><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>No single=20
investment or trading&nbsp;discipline works in every market =
dynamic.&nbsp;=20
Sometimes the market dynamics reward one style and punish another.&nbsp; =
The=20
disciplined investor or trader recognizes what he/she is trying to =
accomplish,=20
what the market &amp; world conditions are, and applies the best =
disciplined=20
approach&nbsp;she/he can.&nbsp; If one is applying only CANSLIM =
disciplines,=20
then one would be out of a bear market, researching and waiting for the =
return=20
of a validated bull market.&nbsp; That's what I remember from WON,=20
anyway.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D171303916-23022003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D171303916-23022003><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Chuck=20
Layne</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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