Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest - Too good to be true?


From: "Gene Ricci" <genr@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest - Too good to be true?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 22:17:10 -0600

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Tim, I strongly suggest that you join the following user group and ask =
your questions there:

vectorvestonlineusersgroup@yahoogroups.com=20

You have to be a subscriber (yes, trials apply) to join and it takes a =
couple days.=20

Contact me offline if you have some specific questions about VV.

Gene

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tim Katona=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:55 PM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest - Too good to be true?


  Hi,
  I just attended a VectorVest free 4 hour seminar on ProGraphics v6.0 =
and ProTrader. I have never used VectorVest. Interesting stuff, I'm =
getting the five week trial to get some experience using it.

  Mark Blake from VectorVest described how by using the portfolio =
manager that since 2/7/01 using MTI (market timing indicator) crossing =
over the +1.5 and -.5 lines, "c-notes, hooks and sinkers" strategy plus =
"jubilee" strategy (canned strategies with program) you 'could have' =
gained 4,000+% in the last 2 years with an 82% success rate! With other =
devices (leaps, etc) one could have achieved 87,000% gains!  Back =
testing easily shows that this could have been done.=20

  I know there are a few VectorVest users on this list and I'd like to =
hear your experience. To me, there are some interesting tools but this =
sound 'too good to be true."  Why do I need anything else, why not just =
use their canned strategies (which one, I'm not sure except for the ones =
mentioned above)? Why not use their MTI, buy, sell, hold recommendations =
for shorting, going long? Have you achieved these kind of gains and =
success rates? Does the theory match your actual experience and =
practice? What are the real positives and negatives of VectorVest?

  Can VectorVest complement CANSLIM or are they completely separate =
approaches ?

  With a $645 cost and these kind of returns the ROI would be great. =
With some daily programming I could sit by the pool and watch the money =
roll in! (I wish.)

  Thanks in advance for your time and efforts.=20
  Tim
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Tim, I strongly suggest that =
you join the=20
following user group and ask your questions there:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4><A=20
href=3D"mailto:vectorvestonlineusersgroup@yahoogroups.com">vectorvestonli=
neusersgroup@yahoogroups.com</A>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>You have to be a subscriber =
(yes, trials=20
apply) to join and it takes a couple days.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Contact me offline if you =
have some=20
specific questions about VV.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Gene</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dtkat17@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:tkat17@earthlink.net">Tim=20
  Katona</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 21, 2003 =
7:55=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] VectorVest - =
Too good=20
  to be true?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D859041501-22032003>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN class=3D859041501-22032003>I =
just attended a=20
  VectorVest free 4 hour seminar on ProGraphics v6.0 and ProTrader. I =
have never=20
  used VectorVest. Interesting stuff, I'm getting the five week trial to =
get=20
  some experience using it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D859041501-22032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D859041501-22032003>Mark Blake from=20
  VectorVest&nbsp;described how by using the portfolio manager that =
since 2/7/01=20
  using MTI (market timing indicator) crossing over the +1.5 and -.5 =
lines,=20
  "c-notes, hooks and sinkers" strategy plus "jubilee" strategy (canned=20
  strategies with program) you 'could have' gained 4,000+% in the last 2 =
years=20
  with an 82% success rate! With other devices (leaps, etc) one could =
have=20
  achieved 87,000% gains!&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D859041501-22032003>Back testing easily shows that this could =
have been=20
  done. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D859041501-22032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN class=3D859041501-22032003>I =
know there are=20
  a few VectorVest users on this list and I'd like to hear your =
experience. To=20
  me, there are some interesting tools but this sound 'too good to be=20
  true."&nbsp;&nbsp;Why do I need anything else, why not just use their =
canned=20
  strategies (which one, I'm not sure except for the ones mentioned =
above)? Why=20
  not use their MTI, buy, sell, hold recommendations for shorting, going =
long?=20
  Have you achieved these kind of gains and success rates? Does the =
theory match=20
  your actual experience and practice? What are the real positives and =
negatives=20
  of VectorVest?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D859041501-22032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D859041501-22032003>Can&nbsp;VectorVest complement CANSLIM or =
are they=20
  completely separate approaches&nbsp;?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D859041501-22032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D859041501-22032003>With a $645 cost=20
  and these kind of returns the ROI would be great. With some daily =
programming=20
  I could sit by the pool and watch the money roll in! (I=20
  wish.)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D859041501-22032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D859041501-22032003>Thanks in advance=20
  for your time and efforts. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  =
class=3D859041501-22032003>Tim</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></H=
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