Re: [CANSLIM] YHOO


From: "NANCY POLCARO" <ZILLAGIRL@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] YHOO
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:29:11 -0700

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no I didnt get into it-to exspensive for me and I was afraid it would fal=
l with the market.nancy(you know-when the market was going to fall??)

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From: Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:08 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] YHOO

Nancy, did you  buy YHOO before the move?

Gene
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From: NANCY POLCARO =20
To: canslim =20
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)


I looked into a micro cap once Fonr-stand up mri-it booked sales when the=
 product was made , to my understanding , from the sec filings, not when =
it was sold. nancy

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From: Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:45 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)

Thanks Tom!

I might be all wet but I feel that companies will have a hard time fudgin=
g this ratio.  They can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but there are f=
ew ways to fudge sales.  There are some (particularly software companies)=
 that have in the past.  Some used to book the entire amount of a contrac=
t sales when it was signed, rather than book when it was billed.  But thi=
s practice has been under fire and is likely to go away if it hasn't alre=
ady. =20

Do you not look at fallen angels? If you do, what would your criteria be?

Thanks,
Gene
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From: Tom Worley =20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =20
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)


Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for fallen an=
gels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what that has =
to do with CANSLIM

Because expectations drive price, and thus high expectations would create=
 a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious whenever I find a stock =
hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamentals, but a relatively low =
p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to dig deeper to figure out=
 why the price does not already reflect a higher premium.

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From: Gene Ricci =20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =20
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)


Appreciate comments on this article.

Gene



Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)
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Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks. =20
The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the =20
company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied =20
by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales =20
over the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive =20
the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides =20
a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to =20
be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible =20
unreliability. =20

Read this article at:
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp

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ackground-color:#ffffff; "><DIV>no I didnt get into it-to exspensive for =
me and I was afraid it would fall with the market.nancy(you know-when the=
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0pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Gene Ricci</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT=
: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:08 PM</DIV> <DIV st=
yle=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> canslim@lists.xmission.com</DIV> <DIV=
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sp;</DIV> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR> <DIV>=
<FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3>Nancy, did you&nbsp; buy&nbsp;YHOO =
before the move?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3>=
</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3>Gene</FONT=
></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=
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rom:</B> <A title=3DZILLAGIRL@msn.com href=3D"mailto:ZILLAGIRL@msn.com">N=
ANCY POLCARO</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A tit=
le=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com=
">canslim</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursda=
y, March 27, 2003 12:54 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subje=
ct:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)<=
/DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I looked into a micro cap once Fonr-stand up m=
ri-it booked sales when the product was made , to my understanding , from=
 the sec filings, not when it was sold. nancy</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BL=
OCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px=
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DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:45=
 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:ca=
nslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A></DIV> <DIV style=
=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis:=
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HTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE>  <DIV><FONT face=3D=
"Comic Sans MS">Thanks Tom!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS=
"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D4>I =
might&nbsp;be all wet but I feel that companies will have&nbsp;a hard tim=
e&nbsp;fudging&nbsp;this ratio.&nbsp; They&nbsp;can fudge EPS lots of dif=
ferent ways, but there are few ways to fudge sales.&nbsp; There are some =
(particularly software companies) that have&nbsp;in the past.&nbsp; Some =
used to book the entire amount of a contract sales when it was signed, ra=
ther than book when it was billed.&nbsp; But this practice has been under=
 fire and is likely to go away if it hasn't already.</FONT>  <DIV>&nbsp;<=
/DIV></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Do you not look at f=
allen angels? If you do, what would your criteria be?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><=
FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS">Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FON=
T></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px=
"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <D=
IV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>=
From:</B> <A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsou=
th.net">Tom Worley</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> =
<A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmissi=
on.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt ar=
ial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:35 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FO=
NT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S -=
 I Love You (Sometimes)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Gen=
e, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for fallen angel=
s, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what that has to =
do with CANSLIM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> =
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Because expectations drive price, and thus high e=
xpectations would create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious =
whenever I find a stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamental=
s, but a relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to =
dig deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher =
premium.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV st=
yle=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----  <DIV style=3D"BACK=
GROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dgenr@swbell.n=
et href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene Ricci</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> =
<A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmissi=
on.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday=
, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] Fundamental=
 Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>=
<FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Appreciate comments on this article=
.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</=
DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Gene</FONT></DIV> <DIV st=
yle=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FO=
NT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I =
Love You (Sometimes)<BR>-------------------------------------------------=
- -----------<BR>Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of =
stocks. <BR>The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the=
 <BR>company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied <BR=
>by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales <BR>over =
the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive <BR>the =
investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides <BR>a useful me=
asure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to <BR>be mindful of the r=
atio's potential pitfalls and possible <BR>unreliability. <BR><BR>Read th=
is article at:<BR><A href=3D"http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundame=
ntal/03/032603.asp">http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/0=
32603.asp</A><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px=
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