Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK


From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 01:17:14 -0400

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Andy, I am not sure what you mean by a "proven winner" or an "unproven =
stock just breaking out". Many of the stocks viewed by the majority of =
money managers and private investors alike as "proven winners" are down =
60 to 90 percent in the past year or so. Putting money there in no way =
assures one of increasing their capital.=20

By the time a stock is a "proven winner" it is often too late to capture =
most of the potential gain.  Every stock purchase is a risk, buying one =
as it is breaking out lessens that risk, and it has nothing to do with =
whether the stock is a "proven winner" or not. Three stocks come to my =
mind without thinking, EPIQ, DOCC, FWHT. Each of these have given me a =
100% return or better in approximately one year, yet none were household =
names, or proven winners, when I first purchased them.

Even WON encourages newcomers to CANSLIM to take profits early, because =
he found that far too many investors simply don't know how to take =
profits. Thus, he set a 20% threshold for profit taking.  As you gain =
experience, eventually you begin to learn when and how to hold onto the =
few that can make huge profits.

One thing Roger should do with that quick $15K profit is set a third of =
it aside in a nice quiet secure money market or one year CD, so he has =
it to pay short term capital gains taxes next year.

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From: AJAskey@aol.com=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK


In a message dated 4/18/2003 6:25:24 PM Central Daylight Time, =
gagnonr001@hawaii.rr.com writes:


  As I told you earlier I am a novice.  The only thing that motivated me =
to
  sell was the $15,000+++ profit and nothing else.  I have been burned =
so
  many times in the past (nonCANSLIM) seeing a stock go up and waiting =
for
  more profit or not wanting to sell becuz of taxes that I decided this =
time
  I would take my profit and run.  There maybe more money to be made but =
I
  was scared.=20


Roger,

Congrats on your gains.  You comments are interesting about being scared =
as I think it was Jesse Livermore who said people are "scared when they =
should be hopeful and hopeful when they should be scared".  (I believe =
it was cited in HTMMIS also.)

The question I have is are you going to put that original investment =
plus the $15,000 into another good looking stock any time soon?  If you =
take the profits and pay off a auto loan or something like that then you =
did the right thing.  If you buy a different stock next week with that =
money then your logic is flawed.  Your money was much more safe in a =
proven winner than in an unproven stock just breaking out.  It doesn't =
always feel that way but those who let their winners run make out better =
than those who constantly take partial profits and try to find a stock =
as good as the one they just sold.  Again, I believe it was Jesse =
Livermore who said he made the most gains while sitting and waiting =
instead of always getting in and out.

Andy 
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Andy, I am not sure what you mean by a "proven =
winner" or=20
an "unproven stock just breaking out". Many of the stocks viewed by the =
majority=20
of money managers and private investors alike as "proven winners" are =
down 60 to=20
90 percent in the past year or so. Putting money there in no way assures =
one of=20
increasing their capital. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>By the time a stock is a "proven winner" it is =
often too=20
late to capture most of the potential gain.&nbsp; Every stock purchase =
is a=20
risk, buying one as it is breaking out lessens that risk, and it has =
nothing to=20
do with whether the stock is a "proven winner" or not. Three stocks come =
to my=20
mind without thinking, EPIQ, DOCC, FWHT. Each of these have given me a =
100%=20
return or better in approximately one year, yet none were household =
names, or=20
proven winners, when I first purchased them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Even WON encourages newcomers to CANSLIM to take =
profits=20
early, because he found that far too many investors simply don't know =
how to=20
take profits. Thus, he set a 20% threshold for profit taking.&nbsp; As =
you gain=20
experience, eventually you begin to learn when and how to hold onto the =
few that=20
can make huge profits.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>One thing Roger should do with that quick $15K =
profit is=20
set a third of it aside in a nice quiet secure money market or one year =
CD, so=20
he has it to pay short term capital gains taxes next year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3DAJAskey@aol.com =
href=3D"mailto:AJAskey@aol.com">AJAskey@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2003 10:53 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial =
size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 4/18/2003 6:25:24 PM Central =
Daylight=20
Time, <A =
href=3D"mailto:gagnonr001@hawaii.rr.com">gagnonr001@hawaii.rr.com</A>=20
writes:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">As I told you earlier I am a novice.&nbsp; The only thing =
that=20
  motivated me to<BR>sell was the $15,000+++ profit and nothing =
else.&nbsp; I=20
  have been burned so<BR>many times in the past (nonCANSLIM) seeing a =
stock go=20
  up and waiting for<BR>more profit or not wanting to sell becuz of =
taxes that I=20
  decided this time<BR>I would take my profit and run.&nbsp; There maybe =
more=20
  money to be made but I<BR>was scared.=20
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Roger,<BR><BR>Congrats on your gains.&nbsp; You =
comments=20
are interesting about being scared as I think it was Jesse Livermore who =
said=20
people are "scared when they should be hopeful and hopeful when they =
should be=20
scared".&nbsp; (I believe it was cited in HTMMIS also.)<BR><BR>The =
question I=20
have is are you going to put that original investment plus the $15,000 =
into=20
another good looking stock any time soon?&nbsp; If you take the profits =
and pay=20
off a auto loan or something like that then you did the right =
thing.&nbsp; If=20
you buy a different stock next week with that money then your logic is=20
flawed.&nbsp; Your money was much more safe in a proven winner than in =
an=20
unproven stock just breaking out.&nbsp; It doesn't always feel that way =
but=20
those who let their winners run make out better than those who =
constantly take=20
partial profits and try to find a stock as good as the one they just =
sold.&nbsp;=20
Again, I believe it was Jesse Livermore who said he made the most gains =
while=20
sitting and waiting instead of always getting in and =
out.<BR><BR>Andy</FONT>=20
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