RE: [CANSLIM] How much support is the 50 DMA? (JOSB)


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] How much support is the 50 DMA? (JOSB)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:56:30 -0500

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Hi Chris,

I see several folks have already commented on the discipline of selling, so
thought I'd focus on a slightly different angle. That is, something I call
"wiggle room" or "the best selling rule is to buy right."

The biggest problem I see with your JOSB situation is that by buying late, you
took away all your wiggle room. JOSB set up with a pivot established 3/21 at
$25.51. It put in a poor handle which didn't drift down, indicating a possible
lack of shakeout, then staged a wimpy breakout on 4/2 (though it did show some
follow through action the next day). With those credentials, buying right is
particularly important. Odds favor, at minimum, a pullback at least to the
original breakout area around 25-26. Sure enough, that's what happened. As your
purchase was late, when the stock was already 13% extended from the breakout
price, you have no wiggle room to survive a pullback without triggering your 8%
rule. Notice that your original mental stop at $27 was above the logical support
area.  See an annotated chart at:

http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/JOSB050603.JPG

These kinds of pullbacks are fairly common. BSTE did the same thing recently and
if purchased correctly, one could've sat out the minor correction without
triggering sell rules. Take a look at the reward:

http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/BSTE050603.JPG

Katherine
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Chris Jones
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 3:45 PM
  To: CANSLIM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] How much support is the 50 DMA? (JOSB)


  I have a dilemma - I bought JOSB a few weeks back and put a mental stop in at
$27 (8%).  When I checked today after the market closed, I saw it had dropped
$1.88, and is now at $25.51.  I'm a little mad that I only placed a mental stop,
which could have avoided this, however I can't change that now.  Normally I
would sell right at the market since my loss has now dropped to 12%, but the
stock now sits about $.25 above it's 50 DMA.  Should I hang on and hope
institutions will step in?  IBD says "many institutions view the 50-day line as
a level at which they can add to their positions at a reasonable price. That's
why many strong stocks find "support" at this line."  However, it seems that the
50 DMA hasn't been too much of a support/resistance for JOSB in the past.  I
hate to wait and hope, since that's exactly what O'Neil said bad investors do,
but the 50 DMA adds an interesting twist.  Should I sell at the market, or wait
to see if it bounces back?  Opinions are appreciated!

  Thanks so much!

  Chris

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003>Hi Chris,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003>I see several folks have already =
commented=20
on the discipline of selling, so thought I'd focus on a slightly =
different=20
angle. That is, something I call "wiggle room" or "the best selling rule =
is to=20
buy right."</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003>The biggest problem I see with =
your JOSB=20
situation is that by buying late, you took away all your wiggle room. =
JOSB set=20
up with a pivot established 3/21 at $25.51. It put in a poor handle =
which didn't=20
drift down, indicating a possible lack of shakeout, then staged a wimpy =
breakout=20
on 4/2 (though it did show some follow through action the next day). =
With those=20
credentials, buying right is particularly important. Odds favor, at =
minimum, a=20
pullback at least to the original breakout area around 25-26. Sure =
enough,=20
that's what happened. As your purchase was late, when the stock was =
already 13%=20
extended from the breakout price, you have no wiggle room to survive a =
pullback=20
without triggering your 8% rule. Notice that your original mental stop =
at $27=20
was above the logical support area.&nbsp; See an annotated chart=20
at:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003><A=20
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/JOSB050603.JPG">http://www.cwh=
charts.com/katherine/JOSB050603.JPG</A></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003>These kinds of pullbacks are =
fairly common.=20
BSTE did the same thing recently and if purchased correctly, one =
could've sat=20
out the minor correction without triggering sell rules. Take a look at =
the=20
reward:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003><A=20
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/BSTE050603.JPG">http://www.cwh=
charts.com/katherine/BSTE050603.JPG</A></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D718524114-06052003>Katherine</SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Chris=20
  Jones<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 05, 2003 3:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  CANSLIM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] How much support is the 50 DMA?=20
  (JOSB)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a dilemma - I bought JOSB a =
few weeks back=20
  and put&nbsp;a mental stop in at $27 (8%).&nbsp; When I checked today =
after=20
  the market closed, I saw it had dropped $1.88, and is now at =
$25.51.&nbsp; I'm=20
  a little mad that I only placed a mental stop, which could have =
avoided this,=20
  however I can't change that now.&nbsp; Normally I would sell right at =
the=20
  market since my loss has now dropped to 12%, but the stock now sits =
about $.25=20
  above it's 50 DMA.&nbsp; Should I hang on and hope institutions will =
step=20
  in?&nbsp; IBD says "many institutions view the 50-day line as a level =
at which=20
  they can add to their positions at a reasonable price. That's why many =
strong=20
  stocks find "support" at this line."&nbsp; However, it seems that the =
50 DMA=20
  hasn't been too much of a support/resistance for JOSB in the =
past.&nbsp; I=20
  hate to wait and hope, since that's exactly what&nbsp;O'Neil said bad=20
  investors do, but the 50 DMA adds an interesting twist.&nbsp; Should I =
sell at=20
  the market, or wait to see if it bounces back?&nbsp; Opinions are=20
  appreciated!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks so much!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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