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Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 11:25:43 -0700
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David,
You mentioned: "Not too many platforms offer this feature and I dont know of
any that hold it overnight."
Do you know any platforms that do offer a trailing stop? I'm looking for
exactly this and have not found any yet, but I have not checked out many
platforms. I use Schwab Streetsmart Pro now, thinking of going to
Cybertrader or Brown and Co. or if I find one with a trailing stop (ideally
overnight) I would move to it.
Thanks in advance,
Tim
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of David Taggart
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:13 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] STOPs
A trailing stop is like a ratchet. Foe instance if you set a $1.00
trailing stop every time the stock goes up $.01 the stop will move up $.01
as well. Not too many platforms offer this feature and I dont know of any
that hold it overnight.
Hope this helps,
David Taggart
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Dreier
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:05 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] STOPs
Please explain "trailing stop". How is that different than the stop
loss that I'm familiar with? Thanks....
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: jeffwdc
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] STOPs
Rolf,
I asked a similar question a couple of months ago.
Tom Worely posted a reply, but I regret I can't find
his actual message -however I did print a hard copy.
On 3/20/03 Tom wrote:
...the normal procedure I use is to leave the stop
loss unchanged (from the 8% stop placed after
purchase) until I am up at least 15%. At that point,
I raise my limit to my original entry point (or
aveerage price if multiple purchases). After that, I
try to us a trailing stop 15% below the prior day
(sometimes the closing price, sometimes the intraday
high, depends on the chart, stock, fundies, how badly
I want to take profits, etc.) Of course, once raised,
the stop loss should NEVER be lowered.
Also found this message from Tom written on 4/21/03:
"I think any stop loss price should be selected after
studying the chart, and considering your entry point.
When I use hard stops, I like to put them just under
where I see support, figuring if it goes thru short
term support then it could go down a lot further.
When I really don't want to be stopped out, and
especially when I already have a nice profit, I tend
to use looser stops."
Jeff Gasta
Note: I am now using a new e-mail address.
--- Rolf Hertenstein <rolfh@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Just curious how folks manage their mental or hard*
> STOPs on a broken-out stock that is behaving well
> (gaining steadily over a few months with a few
> 10-15% corrections). I'm especially curious about
> techniques people might use in this market.
>
> A 'standard' technique uses a trailing STOP at xx%
> below the currwnt price. Another technique I have
> read about sets STOPs in relation to the 50 or 200
> DMA, with the hope that allowing the stock
> relatively wide swings ultimately leads to big
> gains, as long as the DMA is still rising.
>
> Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>
> Rolf
>
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class=3D578152118-21052003>You=20
mentioned: "Not too many platforms offer this feature and I dont know of =
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that hold it overnight." </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D578152118-21052003>Do you=20
know any platforms that do offer a trailing stop? I'm looking for =
exactly this=20
and have not found any yet, but I have not checked out many platforms. I =
use=20
Schwab Streetsmart Pro now, thinking of going to Cybertrader or Brown =
and Co. or=20
if I find one with a trailing stop (ideally overnight) I would move to=20
it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D578152118-21052003>Thanks=20
in advance,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D578152118-21052003>Tim</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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trailing stop is like a ratchet. Foe instance if you set a $1.00 =
trailing stop every time the stock goes up $.01 the stop will move up =
$.01 as=20
well. Not too many platforms offer this feature and I dont know =
of any=20
that hold it overnight.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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this helps,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D122271118-21052003>David Taggart</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Dreier<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:05 =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please explain "trailing =
stop". How is=20
that different than the stop loss that I'm familiar with? =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chuck</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Rolf,<BR><BR>I asked a similar question a couple of =
months=20
ago. <BR>Tom Worely posted a reply, but I regret I can't =
find<BR>his=20
actual message -however I did print a hard copy. <BR>On =
3/20/03 Tom=20
wrote:<BR>...the normal procedure I use is to leave the =
stop<BR>loss=20
unchanged (from the 8% stop placed after<BR>purchase) until I am =
up at=20
least 15%. At that point,<BR>I raise my limit to my original =
entry=20
point (or<BR>aveerage price if multiple purchases). After =
that,=20
I<BR>try to us a trailing stop 15% below the prior =
day<BR>(sometimes the=20
closing price, sometimes the intraday<BR>high, depends on the =
chart,=20
stock, fundies, how badly<BR>I want to take profits, etc.) =
Of=20
course, once raised,<BR>the stop loss should NEVER be =
lowered.<BR><BR>Also=20
found this message from Tom written on 4/21/03:<BR><BR>"I think =
any stop=20
loss price should be selected after<BR>studying the chart, and =
considering=20
your entry point.<BR>When I use hard stops, I like to put them =
just=20
under<BR>where I see support, figuring if it goes thru =
short<BR>term=20
support then it could go down a lot further.<BR><BR>When I really =
don't=20
want to be stopped out, and<BR>especially when I already have a =
nice=20
profit, I tend<BR>to use looser stops."<BR><BR>Jeff Gasta<BR>Note: =
I am=20
now using a new e-mail address.<BR><BR>--- Rolf Hertenstein <<A =
href=3D"mailto:rolfh@mindspring.com">rolfh@mindspring.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> Just curious how folks manage their mental or =
hard*<BR>>=20
STOPs on a broken-out stock that is behaving well<BR>> (gaining =
steadily over a few months with a few<BR>> 10-15% =
corrections). =20
I'm especially curious about<BR>> techniques people might use =
in this=20
market.<BR>> <BR>> A 'standard' technique uses a trailing =
STOP at=20
xx%<BR>> below the currwnt price. Another technique I=20
have<BR>> read about sets STOPs in relation to the 50 or =
200<BR>>=20
DMA, with the hope that allowing the stock<BR>> relatively wide =
swings=20
ultimately leads to big<BR>> gains, as long as the DMA is still =
rising.<BR>> <BR>> Any thoughts greatly appreciated.<BR>> =
<BR>> Rolf<BR>>=20
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