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Additionally, he's been doing it for far more than 11 years (perhaps 40 =
years?) The magic of compounding gets far more impressive the longer you =
can maintain a high return.
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Tomas,
Remember that W.B. was working with OPM (other people's money). =
Besides being a very smart trader in what may have been a very different =
investing environment, he began with a much larger base. Let's say you =
had 100 people coming to the table with $10,000 each - the beginning =
pool would be $1 million.
Chuck
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Reasonable Goal?
> Tomas,
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> This would be an over 40% annualized return. To be
> blunt, it's unrealistic
> and that's assuming that you're paying no taxes at
> all on this money while
> it's compounding. This kind of return would make
> Buffet look like a 3rd rate
> investor in comparison!
Jonathan,
I am not an expert of Warren Buffet's investment
career (have not read the book yet), but I have hear
that he is one of the best INVESTOR. His company's
market cap currently is over $100B. If you are saying
that Buffet should consider himself lucky if he makes
40% return per year, why is he considered to be one of
the best investors? How did he make all that money?=20
You have to make more than 40% return to become a
billion(assuming you do not have a billion to invest
in the first place) Maybe he is a GREAT businessman
but not a good investor?
Just trying to understand. Consider these questions
as newbie questions.
tomas
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tomas" <tomas986@yahoo.com>
> To: "canslim canslim" <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 3:57 PM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] Reasonable Goal?
>=20
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> > This question is for the senior CS'ers. If an
> > investor is 29 years old right now, and his goal
> is to
> > make $2M by 40 to retire, is this a reasonable
> goal?
> > The assumption is that he will start with $10K and
> add
> > between $5-$10K capital every year.
> >
> > I understand that there are many factors like
> > - how discipline you are
> > - how diligence you are
> > - how persistent you are
> > - how you learn from your mistake and
> > do post analysis of your trades
> > - and even how lucky you are.
> >
> > But assumption that the investor is decently good
> on
> > those factors. What is your opinion?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > tomas
> >
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Additionally, he's been doing it for =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tomas,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Remember that W.B. was working with =
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people's money). Besides being a very smart trader in what may =
have been=20
a very different investing environment, he began with a =
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larger base</U>. Let's say you had 100 people coming to the =
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$10,000 each - the beginning pool would be $1 million.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chuck</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>> Tomas,<BR>> <BR>> This would be an =
over=20
40% annualized return. To be<BR>> blunt, it's unrealistic<BR>> =
and=20
that's assuming that you're paying no taxes at<BR>> all on this =
money=20
while<BR>> it's compounding. This kind of return would =
make<BR>>=20
Buffet look like a 3rd rate<BR>> investor in=20
comparison!<BR><BR><BR>Jonathan,<BR><BR>I am not an expert of Warren =
Buffet's investment<BR>career (have not read the book yet), but I =
have=20
hear<BR>that he is one of the best INVESTOR. His =
company's<BR>market=20
cap currently is over $100B. If you are saying<BR>that Buffet =
should=20
consider himself lucky if he makes<BR>40% return per year, why is he =
considered to be one of<BR>the best investors? How did he make =
all=20
that money? <BR>You have to make more than 40% return to become=20
a<BR>billion(assuming you do not have a billion to invest<BR>in the =
first=20
place) Maybe he is a GREAT businessman<BR>but not a good=20
investor?<BR><BR>Just trying to understand. Consider these=20
questions<BR>as newbie =
questions.<BR><BR>tomas<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>>=20
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<BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Tomas" <<A=20
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"canslim canslim" <<A=20
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 3:57 PM<BR>> Subject: [CANSLIM] =
Reasonable=20
Goal?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > This question is for the senior =
CS'ers. If an<BR>> > investor is 29 years old right now, =
and his=20
goal<BR>> is to<BR>> > make $2M by 40 to retire, is this a=20
reasonable<BR>> goal?<BR>> > The assumption is that he will =
start=20
with $10K and<BR>> add<BR>> > between $5-$10K capital every =
year.<BR>> ><BR>> > I understand that there are many =
factors=20
like<BR>> > - how discipline you are<BR>> > - how =
diligence you=20
are<BR>> > - how persistent you are<BR>> > - how you =
learn from=20
your mistake and<BR>> > do post analysis of your=20
trades<BR>> > - and even how lucky you are.<BR>> =
><BR>> >=20
But assumption that the investor is decently good<BR>> on<BR>> =
>=20
those factors. What is your opinion?<BR>> ><BR>> > =
Thanks,<BR>> > tomas<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >=20
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