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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] When to Sell
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:32:42 -0500
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Harold, SAP... same questionable fundies.... had great 'technicals' =
until the past week.... appears to be resting ... is it for a hill climb =
or parachute jump ????
Gene
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Harold Josephson=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 3:21 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] When to Sell
You're right, of course.
But I like their products and the way they conduct their U.S. =
marketing. From a recent loss, they appear to be forecasting $0.80 and =
$1.26 for calendar 03 and 04. Even so, I bought it hoping that the =
started breakout would continue. When it failed and the stock remained =
close to my cost and no clear sell signals appeared, I wasn't sure what =
to do. I still own it. Although its .6% decline today outperformed the =
market, I guess that I should sell it. You seem to feel the same.
Harold
P.S. Any thoughts on SAP?
Harold Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gene Ricci
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:57 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] When to Sell
Harold, are you discussing DT (Duetsche Telekom)?=20
If so, it's not a stock that I would say is 'having good fundies'.
Gene
10/13 day m.a are short term support indicators=20
Harold Josephson <hj@hjosephson.com> wrote:=20
Would you sell here?
Harold Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Sol Mayer
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:06 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] When to Sell
by the way DT pulled back to its 10/13 day moving avg.
Harold Josephson <hj@hjosephson.com> wrote:=20
Hi Katherine,
Your advice, please. Prompted by my recent experience with DT, =
what criteria would you apply to the sale of a stock bought in =
anticipation of a failed breakout if the stock continues to languish =
pennies below your cost?
Thanks
Harold
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Harold, SAP... same=20
questionable fundies.... had great 'technicals' until the past =
week....=20
appears to be resting ... is it for a hill climb or parachute jump=20
????</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dhj@hjosephson.com href=3D"mailto:hj@hjosephson.com">Harold=20
Josephson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 24, 2003 =
3:21=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] When to =
Sell</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Arial Black" color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
Black'">You=92re right,=20
of course.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Arial Black" color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Black'">But =
I like=20
their products and the way they conduct their </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Black" color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
Black'">U.S.</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Black" color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Black'"> =
marketing.=20
From a recent loss, they appear to be forecasting $0.80 and =
$1.26 for=20
calendar 03 and 04. Even so, I bought it hoping that the started =
breakout would continue. When it failed and the stock remained =
close to=20
my cost and no clear sell signals appeared, I wasn=92t sure what to =
do. I=20
still own it. Although its .6% decline today outperformed the =
market, I=20
guess that I should sell it. You seem to feel the =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Black" color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
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face=3D"Arial Black" color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
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Black'">P.S. =20
Any thoughts on SAP?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Harold =
Josephson</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: =
navy"><BR>Tel:=20
323.850.1333<BR>Fax: =
323.512.8968<BR>hj@hjosephson.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dnavy><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Mes</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">sa</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">ge-----<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">=20
[mailto:</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gene=20
Ricci<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, =
June 23,=20
2003 12:57 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] When to=20
Sell</SPAN></FONT></P>
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New Roman"=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans =
MS'">Harold, are=20
you discussing DT (Duetsche Telekom)? </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Sans MS"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans =
MS'">If so, it's=20
not a stock that I would say is 'having good=20
fundies'.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT =
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">10/13 day m.a are short =
term support=20
indicators <BR><BR><B><I><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Harold Josephson=20
<hj@hjosephson.com></SPAN></I></B> wrote: </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT =
face=3D"Arial Black"=20
color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
Black'">Would you=20
sell here?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Harold =
Josephson<BR>Tel:=20
323.850.1333<BR>Fax: =
323.512.8968<BR>hj@hjosephson.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dnavy><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Sol=20
Mayer<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Monday, June=20
23, 2003 8:06 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] When =
to=20
Sell</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">by the way DT pulled back =
to its=20
10/13 day moving avg.<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Harold Josephson=20
<hj@hjosephson.com></SPAN></I></B> wrote: </SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=3D"Arial Black"=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
Black'">Hi=20
Katherine,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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face=3D"Arial Black"=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
Black'">Your=20
advice, please. Prompted by my recent experience with DT, =
what=20
criteria would you apply to the sale of a stock bought in =
anticipation of=20
a failed breakout if the stock continues to languish pennies below =
your=20
cost?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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face=3D"Arial Black"=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
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