RE: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts


From: "Pritish Shah" <pshah@lason.com>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:36:22 -0400

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Hi Kelly,=20

I have been studying where I am making mistakes. A lot of my failures were =
bought when Nasdaq was touching the upper bollinger bands. Checkout the =
following chart. You will notice that Nasdaq is currently toying with the =
upper bollinger bands and has been bouncing from the 20dma. So the best =
time to buy would be when Nasdaq again touches 20dma and there are a =
flurry of breakouts.=20

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^IXIC&d=3Dc&k=3Dc3&a=3Dvm,m26-12-9,ss,fs&p=
=3Dm20,b&t=3D6m&l=3Don&z=3Dl&q=3Db=20

A lot of people have shown me charts that basically predict that the =
market will churn for the next few years and I believe that would be the =
trend. This is where CANSLIM can do much better than any other method of =
investing.=20

Take a look at the following chart. You will notice that from 1937 to 1950 =
(13 yrs), the market was pretty much flat. From 1965 to 1983 also the =
market was flat. There was also a flat period before 1930 but that is not =
shown on the graph.=20

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^DJI&d=3Dc&k=3Dc3&p=3D&t=3Dmy&l=3Don&z=3Dl&q=
=3Dl=20

Basically after every major rise, the market pauses for several years and =
then tries again. This has happened 3 times on DJI. Nasdaq is currently =
behaving exactly like DJI from 1930 to 1933. If it continues to behave =
like DJI, for next year and half, we are not going to go anywhere and then =
there will be a major move upwards.
=20
I am open for discussions but not flames please.
=20
Thanks,
Pritish


>>> kelly.short@fw.us.neoris.com 07/15/03 02:40PM >>>=20
Gene,=20

What was in your patriotic Wheeties this morning?! Thanks for the =
explanation though. Have you thought about a career in politics because =
that answer was perfectly on the middle ground.=20

Okay, okay. I'll ride the trend. I'm just bitter: three of my recent BO =
purchases have gotten SARS and are in quarantine. I fear I may lose them =
to the "disease", or the hurricane, or whatever ailment is keeping them =
from soaring.=20

That said- I did enjoy reading the information you passed along- thanks!=20=


Kelly=20

- -----Original Message-----=20
From: Gene Ricci [ mailto:genr@swbell.net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:06 PM=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts=20


Kelly, forgive the clich=E9......... "The trend is your friend".=20

Now here's another profound statement "the trend is up until proven =
otherwise".=20

Many indicators are showing overbought, but they can stay overbought for a =
long long time. Take last year, they stayed oversold for a long long time. =
Most likely there is a bit of consolidation going on .... but who knows =
which way the break will occur. One just has to decide at what point the =
trend has changed from up to down (or sideways). And at what point another =
breakout to the upside has occurred. Each person must decide this on =
his/her own.=20

We were told that there would not be a post war rally - is that true?=20
We were told the new dividend law would not affect stock prices - is that =
true?=20

Although I don't see signs of a renewed bear.... I hear them in the =
background.... moaning and groaning as they try to save face after losing =
their butts.... shorting this year.=20

I feel that the market has to continue its upward trend because the public =
wants it to (to say nothing about the administration). When I attend =
meetings, read user group email and talk to friends I'm reminded of the =
Statue of Liberty....=20

"give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe =
free"=20

translated to:=20

We're tired (poor management, manipulation, lies, cooked books), we're =
poor, your investors are yearning to once again believe!!!! ... kind of =
corny but what the heck!=20

Gene=20




- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: Kelly Short < mailto:kelly.short@fw.us.neoris.com >=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:53 AM=20
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts=20


Gene,=20

Do you have any opinions to offer regarding this information? I see that =
many stocks are above their 50 and 200 dma and that RS lines are trending =
downward. However, most stocks seem to be trading between their upper and =
lower bands and money flow doesn't seem to indicate enormous swings either =
way. Do you think the market is a) absorbing a recent run-up b) peaking =
before a short term decline towards a resistance point, or c) giving the =
bear market pundits fuel for the flames (e.g. forecasting a major =
decline)? I'd be interested to hear what you have to say. Thanks.=20

Kelly=20

- -----Original Message-----=20
From: Gene Ricci [ mailto:genr@swbell.net]=20
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:19 PM=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Subject: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts=20


May be of interest to you.=20

Gene=20



Charts have been updated through today (7/14)=20

http://www.sectorrotationfund.com/MarketTrends.htm=20

Duke Jones, CMT=20
www.longboatglobal.com=20
www.sectorrotationfund.com=20







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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Kelly, <BR><BR>I have been studying where I am =
making=20
mistakes. A lot of my failures were bought when Nasdaq was touching the =
upper=20
bollinger bands.&nbsp;Checkout the following chart. You will notice that =
Nasdaq=20
is currently toying with the upper bollinger bands and has been bouncing =
from=20
the 20dma. So the best time to buy would be when Nasdaq again touches =
20dma and=20
there are a flurry of breakouts. <BR><BR><U><A=20
href=3D"http://http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^IXIC&amp;d=3Dc&amp;k=3Dc3&am=
p;a=3Dvm,m26-12-9,ss,fs&amp;p=3Dm20,b&amp;t=3D6m&amp;l=3Don&amp;z=3Dl&amp;q=
=3Db">http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^IXIC&amp;d=3Dc&amp;k=3Dc3&amp;a=3Dvm,=
m26-12-9,ss,fs&amp;p=3Dm20,b&amp;t=3D6m&amp;l=3Don&amp;z=3Dl&amp;q=3Db</A><=
/U>=20
<BR><BR>A lot of people have shown me charts that basically predict that =
the=20
market will churn for the next few years and I believe that would be the =
trend.=20
This is where CANSLIM can do much better than any other method of =
investing.=20
<BR><BR>Take a look at the following chart. You will notice that from 1937 =
to=20
1950 (13 yrs), the market was pretty much flat. From 1965 to 1983 also =
the=20
market was flat. There was also a flat period before 1930 but that is not =
shown=20
on the graph. <BR><BR><U><A=20
href=3D"http://http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^DJI&amp;d=3Dc&amp;k=3Dc3&amp=
;p=3D&amp;t=3Dmy&amp;l=3Don&amp;z=3Dl&amp;q=3Dl">http://finance.yahoo.com/q=
?s=3D^DJI&amp;d=3Dc&amp;k=3Dc3&amp;p=3D&amp;t=3Dmy&amp;l=3Don&amp;z=3Dl&amp=
;q=3Dl</A></U>=20
<BR><BR>Basically after every major rise, the market pauses for several =
years=20
and then tries again. This has happened 3 times on DJI. <STRONG><U>Nasdaq =
is=20
currently behaving exactly like DJI from 1930 to 1933.</U></STRONG> If =
it=20
continues to behave like DJI, for next year and half, we are not going to =
go=20
anywhere and then there will be a major move upwards.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I am open for discussions but not flames=20
please.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Pritish<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; kelly.short@fw.us.neoris.com 07/15/03 02:40PM =
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>Gene, <BR><BR>What was in your patriotic Wheeties this morning?! =
Thanks for=20
the explanation though. Have you thought about a career in politics =
because that=20
answer was perfectly on the middle ground. <BR><BR>Okay, okay. I'll ride =
the=20
trend. I'm just bitter: three of my recent BO purchases have gotten SARS =
and are=20
in quarantine. I fear I may lose them to the "disease", or the hurricane, =
or=20
whatever ailment is keeping them from soaring. <BR><BR>That said- I did =
enjoy=20
reading the information you passed along- thanks! <BR><BR>Kelly=20
<BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Gene Ricci [<U> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net]">mailto:genr@swbell.net]</A></U> =
<BR>Sent:=20
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:06 PM <BR>To: <U><A=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A></=
U>=20
<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts <BR><BR><BR>Kelly, forgive =
the=20
clich=E9......... "The trend is your friend". <BR><BR>Now here's another =
profound=20
statement "the trend is up until proven otherwise". <BR><BR>Many indicators=
 are=20
showing overbought, but they can stay overbought for a long long time. =
Take last=20
year, they stayed oversold for a long long time. Most likely there is a =
bit of=20
consolidation going on .... but who knows which way the break will occur. =
One=20
just has to decide at what point the trend has changed from up to down =
(or=20
sideways). And at what point another breakout to the upside has occurred. =
Each=20
person must decide this on his/her own. <BR><BR>We were told that there =
would=20
not be a post war rally - is that true? <BR>We were told the new dividend =
law=20
would not affect stock prices - is that true? <BR><BR>Although I don't see =
signs=20
of a renewed bear.... I hear them in the background.... moaning and =
groaning as=20
they try to save face after losing their butts.... shorting this year. =
<BR><BR>I=20
feel that the market has to continue its upward trend because the public =
wants=20
it to (to say nothing about the administration). When I attend meetings, =
read=20
user group email and talk to friends I'm reminded of the Statue of =
Liberty....=20
<BR><BR>"give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to =
breathe=20
free" <BR><BR>translated to: <BR><BR>We're tired (poor management, =
manipulation,=20
lies, cooked books), we're poor, your investors are yearning to once =
again=20
believe!!!! ... kind of corny but what the heck! <BR><BR>Gene=20
<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: Kelly Short =
&lt;<U>=20
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:kelly.short@fw.us.neoris.com">mailto:kelly.short@fw.us.neori=
s.com</A></U>=20
&gt; <BR>To: <U><A=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A></=
U>=20
<BR>Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:53 AM <BR>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] =
Market=20
Trend Charts <BR><BR><BR>Gene, <BR><BR>Do you have any opinions to =
offer=20
regarding this information? I see that many stocks are above their 50 and =
200=20
dma and that RS lines are trending downward. However, most stocks seem to =
be=20
trading between their upper and lower bands and money flow doesn't seem =
to=20
indicate enormous swings either way. Do you think the market is a) =
absorbing a=20
recent run-up b) peaking before a short term decline towards a resistance =
point,=20
or c) giving the bear market pundits fuel for the flames (e.g. forecasting =
a=20
major decline)? I'd be interested to hear what you have to say. Thanks.=20
<BR><BR>Kelly <BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Gene Ricci [<U> =
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net]">mailto:genr@swbell.net]</A></U> <BR>Sent: =
Monday,=20
July 14, 2003 7:19 PM <BR>To: <U><A=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A></=
U>=20
<BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts <BR><BR><BR>May be of interest =
to=20
you. <BR><BR>Gene <BR><BR><BR><BR>Charts have been updated through today =
(7/14)=20
<BR><BR><U><A=20
href=3D"http://www.sectorrotationfund.com/MarketTrends.htm">http://www.sect=
orrotationfund.com/MarketTrends.htm</A></U>=20
<BR><BR>Duke Jones, CMT <BR><U><A=20
href=3D"http://www.longboatglobal.com/">www.longboatglobal.com</A></U> =
<BR><U><A=20
href=3D"http://www.sectorrotationfund.com/">www.sectorrotationfund.com</A><=
/U>=20
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