Re: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts


From: "Rolf Hertenstein" <rolfh@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:56:38 -0600

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Hi Pritish -  I clicked on the links and got a "cannot be displayed" =
error.  Are the links correct?  I'm curious to see these.

Thanks!

 Rolf
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Pritish Shah=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts


  Hi Kelly,=20

  I have been studying where I am making mistakes. A lot of my failures =
were bought when Nasdaq was touching the upper bollinger bands. Checkout =
the following chart. You will notice that Nasdaq is currently toying =
with the upper bollinger bands and has been bouncing from the 20dma. So =
the best time to buy would be when Nasdaq again touches 20dma and there =
are a flurry of breakouts.=20

  =
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^IXIC&d=3Dc&k=3Dc3&a=3Dvm,m26-12-9,ss,fs&p=
=3Dm20,b&t=3D6m&l=3Don&z=3Dl&q=3Db=20

  A lot of people have shown me charts that basically predict that the =
market will churn for the next few years and I believe that would be the =
trend. This is where CANSLIM can do much better than any other method of =
investing.=20

  Take a look at the following chart. You will notice that from 1937 to =
1950 (13 yrs), the market was pretty much flat. From 1965 to 1983 also =
the market was flat. There was also a flat period before 1930 but that =
is not shown on the graph.=20

  =
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^DJI&d=3Dc&k=3Dc3&p=3D&t=3Dmy&l=3Don&z=3Dl=
&q=3Dl=20

  Basically after every major rise, the market pauses for several years =
and then tries again. This has happened 3 times on DJI. Nasdaq is =
currently behaving exactly like DJI from 1930 to 1933. If it continues =
to behave like DJI, for next year and half, we are not going to go =
anywhere and then there will be a major move upwards.

  I am open for discussions but not flames please.

  Thanks,
  Pritish


  >>> kelly.short@fw.us.neoris.com 07/15/03 02:40PM >>>=20
  Gene,=20

  What was in your patriotic Wheeties this morning?! Thanks for the =
explanation though. Have you thought about a career in politics because =
that answer was perfectly on the middle ground.=20

  Okay, okay. I'll ride the trend. I'm just bitter: three of my recent =
BO purchases have gotten SARS and are in quarantine. I fear I may lose =
them to the "disease", or the hurricane, or whatever ailment is keeping =
them from soaring.=20

  That said- I did enjoy reading the information you passed along- =
thanks!=20

  Kelly=20

  -----Original Message-----=20
  From: Gene Ricci [ mailto:genr@swbell.net]=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:06 PM=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts=20


  Kelly, forgive the clich=E9......... "The trend is your friend".=20

  Now here's another profound statement "the trend is up until proven =
otherwise".=20

  Many indicators are showing overbought, but they can stay overbought =
for a long long time. Take last year, they stayed oversold for a long =
long time. Most likely there is a bit of consolidation going on .... but =
who knows which way the break will occur. One just has to decide at what =
point the trend has changed from up to down (or sideways). And at what =
point another breakout to the upside has occurred. Each person must =
decide this on his/her own.=20

  We were told that there would not be a post war rally - is that true?=20
  We were told the new dividend law would not affect stock prices - is =
that true?=20

  Although I don't see signs of a renewed bear.... I hear them in the =
background.... moaning and groaning as they try to save face after =
losing their butts.... shorting this year.=20

  I feel that the market has to continue its upward trend because the =
public wants it to (to say nothing about the administration). When I =
attend meetings, read user group email and talk to friends I'm reminded =
of the Statue of Liberty....=20

  "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to =
breathe free"=20

  translated to:=20

  We're tired (poor management, manipulation, lies, cooked books), we're =
poor, your investors are yearning to once again believe!!!! ... kind of =
corny but what the heck!=20

  Gene=20




  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Kelly Short < mailto:kelly.short@fw.us.neoris.com >=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:53 AM=20
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts=20


  Gene,=20

  Do you have any opinions to offer regarding this information? I see =
that many stocks are above their 50 and 200 dma and that RS lines are =
trending downward. However, most stocks seem to be trading between their =
upper and lower bands and money flow doesn't seem to indicate enormous =
swings either way. Do you think the market is a) absorbing a recent =
run-up b) peaking before a short term decline towards a resistance =
point, or c) giving the bear market pundits fuel for the flames (e.g. =
forecasting a major decline)? I'd be interested to hear what you have to =
say. Thanks.=20

  Kelly=20

  -----Original Message-----=20
  From: Gene Ricci [ mailto:genr@swbell.net]=20
  Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:19 PM=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Subject: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts=20


  May be of interest to you.=20

  Gene=20



  Charts have been updated through today (7/14)=20

  http://www.sectorrotationfund.com/MarketTrends.htm=20

  Duke Jones, CMT=20
  www.longboatglobal.com=20
  www.sectorrotationfund.com=20






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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Pritish -&nbsp; I clicked on the =
links and got a=20
"cannot be displayed" error.&nbsp; Are the links correct?&nbsp; I'm =
curious to=20
see these.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;Rolf</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dpshah@lason.com href=3D"mailto:pshah@lason.com">Pritish =
Shah</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 15, 2003 =
1:36=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] Market =
Trend=20
  Charts</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Kelly, <BR><BR>I have been studying where I =
am making=20
  mistakes. A lot of my failures were bought when Nasdaq was touching =
the upper=20
  bollinger bands.&nbsp;Checkout the following chart. You will notice =
that=20
  Nasdaq is currently toying with the upper bollinger bands and has been =

  bouncing from the 20dma. So the best time to buy would be when Nasdaq =
again=20
  touches 20dma and there are a flurry of breakouts. <BR><BR><U><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^IXIC&amp;d=3Dc&amp;k=3Dc3&=
amp;a=3Dvm,m26-12-9,ss,fs&amp;p=3Dm20,b&amp;t=3D6m&amp;l=3Don&amp;z=3Dl&a=
mp;q=3Db">http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^IXIC&amp;d=3Dc&amp;k=3Dc3&amp;a=
=3Dvm,m26-12-9,ss,fs&amp;p=3Dm20,b&amp;t=3D6m&amp;l=3Don&amp;z=3Dl&amp;q=3D=
b</A></U>=20
  <BR><BR>A lot of people have shown me charts that basically predict =
that the=20
  market will churn for the next few years and I believe that would be =
the=20
  trend. This is where CANSLIM can do much better than any other method =
of=20
  investing. <BR><BR>Take a look at the following chart. You will notice =
that=20
  from 1937 to 1950 (13 yrs), the market was pretty much flat. From 1965 =
to 1983=20
  also the market was flat. There was also a flat period before 1930 but =
that is=20
  not shown on the graph. <BR><BR><U><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3D^DJI&amp;d=3Dc&amp;k=3Dc3&a=
mp;p=3D&amp;t=3Dmy&amp;l=3Don&amp;z=3Dl&amp;q=3Dl">http://finance.yahoo.c=
om/q?s=3D^DJI&amp;d=3Dc&amp;k=3Dc3&amp;p=3D&amp;t=3Dmy&amp;l=3Don&amp;z=3D=
l&amp;q=3Dl</A></U>=20
  <BR><BR>Basically after every major rise, the market pauses for =
several years=20
  and then tries again. This has happened 3 times on DJI. =
<STRONG><U>Nasdaq is=20
  currently behaving exactly like DJI from 1930 to 1933.</U></STRONG> If =
it=20
  continues to behave like DJI, for next year and half, we are not going =
to go=20
  anywhere and then there will be a major move upwards.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I am open for discussions but not flames=20
  please.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Pritish<BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; kelly.short@fw.us.neoris.com 07/15/03 02:40PM=20
  &gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>Gene, <BR><BR>What was in your patriotic Wheeties =
this=20
  morning?! Thanks for the explanation though. Have you thought about a =
career=20
  in politics because that answer was perfectly on the middle ground.=20
  <BR><BR>Okay, okay. I'll ride the trend. I'm just bitter: three of my =
recent=20
  BO purchases have gotten SARS and are in quarantine. I fear I may lose =
them to=20
  the "disease", or the hurricane, or whatever ailment is keeping them =
from=20
  soaring. <BR><BR>That said- I did enjoy reading the information you =
passed=20
  along- thanks! <BR><BR>Kelly <BR><BR>-----Original Message----- =
<BR>From: Gene=20
  Ricci [<U> <A =
href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net]">mailto:genr@swbell.net]</A></U>=20
  <BR>Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:06 PM <BR>To: <U><A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</U>=20
  <BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts <BR><BR><BR>Kelly, =
forgive the=20
  clich=E9......... "The trend is your friend". <BR><BR>Now here's =
another=20
  profound statement "the trend is up until proven otherwise". =
<BR><BR>Many=20
  indicators are showing overbought, but they can stay overbought for a =
long=20
  long time. Take last year, they stayed oversold for a long long time. =
Most=20
  likely there is a bit of consolidation going on .... but who knows =
which way=20
  the break will occur. One just has to decide at what point the trend =
has=20
  changed from up to down (or sideways). And at what point another =
breakout to=20
  the upside has occurred. Each person must decide this on his/her own.=20
  <BR><BR>We were told that there would not be a post war rally - is =
that true?=20
  <BR>We were told the new dividend law would not affect stock prices - =
is that=20
  true? <BR><BR>Although I don't see signs of a renewed bear.... I hear =
them in=20
  the background.... moaning and groaning as they try to save face after =
losing=20
  their butts.... shorting this year. <BR><BR>I feel that the market has =
to=20
  continue its upward trend because the public wants it to (to say =
nothing about=20
  the administration). When I attend meetings, read user group email and =
talk to=20
  friends I'm reminded of the Statue of Liberty.... <BR><BR>"give me =
your tired,=20
  your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" =
<BR><BR>translated=20
  to: <BR><BR>We're tired (poor management, manipulation, lies, cooked =
books),=20
  we're poor, your investors are yearning to once again believe!!!! ... =
kind of=20
  corny but what the heck! <BR><BR>Gene <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>----- =
Original=20
  Message ----- <BR>From: Kelly Short &lt;<U> <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:kelly.short@fw.us.neoris.com">mailto:kelly.short@fw.us.neo=
ris.com</A></U>=20
  &gt; <BR>To: <U><A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</U>=20
  <BR>Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:53 AM <BR>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] =
Market=20
  Trend Charts <BR><BR><BR>Gene, <BR><BR>Do you have any opinions to =
offer=20
  regarding this information? I see that many stocks are above their 50 =
and 200=20
  dma and that RS lines are trending downward. However, most stocks seem =
to be=20
  trading between their upper and lower bands and money flow doesn't =
seem to=20
  indicate enormous swings either way. Do you think the market is a) =
absorbing a=20
  recent run-up b) peaking before a short term decline towards a =
resistance=20
  point, or c) giving the bear market pundits fuel for the flames (e.g.=20
  forecasting a major decline)? I'd be interested to hear what you have =
to say.=20
  Thanks. <BR><BR>Kelly <BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: =
Gene Ricci=20
  [<U> <A =
href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net]">mailto:genr@swbell.net]</A></U>=20
  <BR>Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:19 PM <BR>To: <U><A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</U>=20
  <BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] Market Trend Charts <BR><BR><BR>May be of =
interest to=20
  you. <BR><BR>Gene <BR><BR><BR><BR>Charts have been updated through =
today=20
  (7/14) <BR><BR><U><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.sectorrotationfund.com/MarketTrends.htm">http://www.se=
ctorrotationfund.com/MarketTrends.htm</A></U>=20
  <BR><BR>Duke Jones, CMT <BR><U><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.longboatglobal.com/">www.longboatglobal.com</A></U> =
<BR><U><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.sectorrotationfund.com/">www.sectorrotationfund.com</A=
></U>=20
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