Re: [CANSLIM] HITK


From: "Gene Ricci" <genr@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HITK
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:01:35 -0500

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MessageDMC,=20

I didn't say that the volume was high... I said "The power of the =
newsletter assumes control... up 6% and 1/3 of the daily volume =
already." this was at 9.30 am.

I wonder what will happen if it breaks $26.70 with some amount of =
volume?
Gene
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  From: DMC197807=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HITK


  Pete,

  I'm always curious when someone mentions a pivot point.  Where is the =
pivot point you are referring to?

  Good risk/reward will depend on your time frame.  The volatility is in =
this stock now and it could easily swing 6-10% on any given day in =
either direction.  It's ATR is now a whopping 3.23, or 12% of the =
current stock price.  Let's discount that by a third just because of the =
recent plunge and you still have an ATR at 8% of the stock's price.

  So if you want to trade it intraday and you can buy low and sell high, =
it can be attractive.  If you're on the wrong side of the swing, though, =
it can be painful.  What's interesting about the chart to me is you look =
at a weekly and there appears to be support just below $20, but you look =
at the daily and it's not there.

  As to volume, Gene thought volume was high and you think it's drying =
up.  Who's right?  I dunno, my guess is you are, but I think you're =
drawing the wrong conclusion from the volume.  The stock is trying to =
rally above the 200 ema today on falling volume; I think that's bearish =
short term for this stock.  If it were rallying hard on a volume spike =
that would mean people were queueing up to buy the stock.  I don't think =
that's happening.  I think a downward trend with falling volume =
indicates more potential downside.

  I'm looking to buy it when it has little chance of falling further and =
very good chances of rising higher.  Here I think the risk reward is 3-1 =
it goes down below 20, 5-1 it goes back to support at 15; 5-1 it rises =
from here to 31 and climbs, and 15-1 it rises above 36.

  JMHO,

  DMC

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    From: Pete=20
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:31 AM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HITK


    Obviously, the chart looks bad.  However it does appear it could =
bounce of the previous pivot point.  With todays's gap and down volume =
drying up so my question would be how to set up a good risk/reward =
ratio.=20

    I'm having a hard time finding fundies on this but at first glance =
it looks they are having a little deceleration in earning/revenue with =
little analyst coverage, could check funds on morningstar.com.  Not sure =
of competition.

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">DMC, </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I didn't say that the volume was =
high... I said=20
"The power of the newsletter assumes control... up 6% and 1/3 of the =
daily=20
volume already." this was at 9.30 am.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I wonder what will happen if it breaks =
$26.70=20
with some amount of volume?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Ddmc197807@comcast.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:dmc197807@comcast.net">DMC197807</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 =
12:35=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
HITK</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pete,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm always curious when someone =
mentions a pivot=20
  point.&nbsp; Where is the pivot point you are referring =
to?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good risk/reward will depend on your =
time=20
  frame.&nbsp; The volatility is in this stock now and it could easily =
swing=20
  6-10% on any given day in either direction.&nbsp; It's ATR is now a =
whopping=20
  3.23, or 12% of the current stock price.&nbsp; Let's discount that by =
a third=20
  just because of the recent plunge and you still have an ATR at 8% of =
the=20
  stock's price.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So if you want to trade it intraday =
and you can=20
  buy low and sell high, it can be attractive.&nbsp; If you're on the =
wrong side=20
  of the swing, though, it can be painful.&nbsp; What's interesting =
about the=20
  chart to me is you look at a weekly and there appears to be support =
just below=20
  $20, but you look at the daily and it's not there.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As to volume, Gene thought volume was =
high and=20
  you think it's drying up.&nbsp; Who's right?&nbsp; I dunno, my guess =
is you=20
  are, but I think you're drawing the wrong conclusion from the =
volume.&nbsp;=20
  The stock is trying to rally above the 200 ema today on falling =
volume; I=20
  think that's bearish short term for this stock.&nbsp; If it were =
rallying hard=20
  on a volume spike that would mean people were queueing up to buy the=20
  stock.&nbsp; I don't think that's happening.&nbsp; I think a downward =
trend=20
  with falling volume indicates more potential downside.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm looking to buy it when it has =
little chance=20
  of falling further and very good chances of rising higher.&nbsp; Here =
I think=20
  the risk reward is 3-1 it goes down below 20, 5-1 it goes back to =
support at=20
  15; 5-1 it rises from here to 31 and climbs, and 15-1 it rises above=20
  36.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>JMHO,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DMC</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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    <A title=3Dpeten123@nc.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:peten123@nc.rr.com">Pete</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 =
9:31=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
HITK</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Obviously, the chart looks =
bad.&nbsp; However=20
    it does appear it could bounce of the previous pivot point.&nbsp; =
With=20
    todays's gap and down volume drying up so my question would be how =
to set up=20
    a good risk/reward ratio. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm having a hard time finding =
fundies on this=20
    but at first glance it looks they are having a little deceleration =
in=20
    earning/revenue with little analyst coverage, could check funds on=20
    morningstar.com.&nbsp; Not sure of competition.</FONT></DIV>
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