Re: [CANSLIM] HITK


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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HITK
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:35:01 -0700

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MessagePete,

I'm always curious when someone mentions a pivot point.  Where is the =
pivot point you are referring to?

Good risk/reward will depend on your time frame.  The volatility is in =
this stock now and it could easily swing 6-10% on any given day in =
either direction.  It's ATR is now a whopping 3.23, or 12% of the =
current stock price.  Let's discount that by a third just because of the =
recent plunge and you still have an ATR at 8% of the stock's price.

So if you want to trade it intraday and you can buy low and sell high, =
it can be attractive.  If you're on the wrong side of the swing, though, =
it can be painful.  What's interesting about the chart to me is you look =
at a weekly and there appears to be support just below $20, but you look =
at the daily and it's not there.

As to volume, Gene thought volume was high and you think it's drying up. =
 Who's right?  I dunno, my guess is you are, but I think you're drawing =
the wrong conclusion from the volume.  The stock is trying to rally =
above the 200 ema today on falling volume; I think that's bearish short =
term for this stock.  If it were rallying hard on a volume spike that =
would mean people were queueing up to buy the stock.  I don't think =
that's happening.  I think a downward trend with falling volume =
indicates more potential downside.

I'm looking to buy it when it has little chance of falling further and =
very good chances of rising higher.  Here I think the risk reward is 3-1 =
it goes down below 20, 5-1 it goes back to support at 15; 5-1 it rises =
from here to 31 and climbs, and 15-1 it rises above 36.

JMHO,

DMC

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HITK


  Obviously, the chart looks bad.  However it does appear it could =
bounce of the previous pivot point.  With todays's gap and down volume =
drying up so my question would be how to set up a good risk/reward =
ratio.=20

  I'm having a hard time finding fundies on this but at first glance it =
looks they are having a little deceleration in earning/revenue with =
little analyst coverage, could check funds on morningstar.com.  Not sure =
of competition.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pete,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm always curious when someone =
mentions a pivot=20
point.&nbsp; Where is the pivot point you are referring to?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good risk/reward will depend on your =
time=20
frame.&nbsp; The volatility is in this stock now and it could easily =
swing 6-10%=20
on any given day in either direction.&nbsp; It's ATR is now a whopping =
3.23, or=20
12% of the current stock price.&nbsp; Let's discount that by a third =
just=20
because of the recent plunge and you still have an ATR at 8% of the =
stock's=20
price.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So if you want to trade it intraday and =
you can buy=20
low and sell high, it can be attractive.&nbsp; If you're on the wrong =
side of=20
the swing, though, it can be painful.&nbsp; What's interesting about the =
chart=20
to me is you look at a weekly and there appears to be support just below =
$20,=20
but you look at the daily and it's not there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As to volume, Gene thought volume was =
high and you=20
think it's drying up.&nbsp; Who's right?&nbsp; I dunno, my guess is you =
are, but=20
I think you're drawing the wrong conclusion from the volume.&nbsp; The =
stock is=20
trying to rally above the 200 ema today on falling volume; I think =
that's=20
bearish short term for this stock.&nbsp; If it were rallying hard on a =
volume=20
spike that would mean people were queueing up to buy the stock.&nbsp; I =
don't=20
think that's happening.&nbsp; I think a downward trend with falling =
volume=20
indicates more potential downside.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm looking to buy it when it has =
little chance of=20
falling further and very good chances of rising higher.&nbsp; Here I =
think the=20
risk reward is 3-1 it goes down below 20, 5-1 it goes back to support at =
15; 5-1=20
it rises from here to 31 and climbs, and 15-1 it rises above =
36.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>JMHO,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DMC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <A title=3Dpeten123@nc.rr.com =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 =
9:31 AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
HITK</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Obviously, the chart looks bad.&nbsp; =
However it=20
  does appear it could bounce of the previous pivot point.&nbsp; With =
todays's=20
  gap and down volume drying up so my question would be how to set up a =
good=20
  risk/reward ratio. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm having a hard time finding =
fundies on this=20
  but at first glance it looks they are having a little deceleration in=20
  earning/revenue with little analyst coverage, could check funds on=20
  morningstar.com.&nbsp; Not sure of competition.</FONT></DIV>
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