RE: [CANSLIM] elder and triple screens


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] elder and triple screens
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:39:24 -0500

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MessageDMC,

Here we  respectfully recognize WON as the person who put us on this specific
investing track. He is one of many of our teachers. Respect and idolatry are
very different.

As I suggested, there are many aspects of trading. Some of the folks here are
extremely new to CANSLIM. They struggle with the simplest aspects of the
methodology including reading simple price/volume action in a chart, spotting
rises and bases, support and resistence, etc. They struggle with understanding
the difference between an EPS rank and EPS quarter over quarter. They struggle
with understanding the difference between an RSLine and and RSRank. They
struggle with understanding how to go about finding stocks for their watchlist
using CANSLIM parameters. As all of us were beginners at one time, the beauty of
a list like this is that it provides a safe environmnent where one can come and
ask questions and those who've been there can help. I wish the list had been
here when I was a beginning CANSLIMer. It would have saved me a boatload of
mistakes (and tuition).

Others are not new to CANSLIM, they have the basics under control, but they
still struggle with sell rules. They might be struggling with determining which
are the key elements of  mining for stocks, which order of importance to place
on them, etc. They have built a personal knowledgebase built on years and years
of trading in the CANSLIM style and know where minefields and pitfalls tend to
be, but low and behold discover new ones in a Bear Market. They question their
own assumptions, they ask for help, they pose questions as to whether the
underlying assumptions are still valid. They share their experiences with
trading this particular methodology. And without a doubt they read and study
each and every day. They may start with 20 pages in HTMMIS, but their libraries
are filled with books on market cycles, technical analysis, value investing,
growth investing, mechanical systems,  market history, etc.

But they come here to discuss CANSLIM and share their experiences with CANSLIM
investing based on what they've learned.

Stay on track. There are nearly 800 voices on the list.

Katherine
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of DMC197807
  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:17 AM
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] elder and triple screens


  Katherine & Jeff,

  First, I would agree with Katherine that a detailed discussion of what
settings to use on different oscillators is afield from the purpose of the
board.  I'd suggest you scope out the Silicon Investor sites as a starting
point:

  http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/sub_hot.gsp

  As for generalized discussions of how to read charts, etc., what kinds of
time-frames to look at, etc., I think that's what makes a good investor no
matter what the approach.  It is an absolutely vital part of making a keeping
profits.  In this approach, where you basically sit down with a scanning program
that can spit out 10-12 names per day, it is vital to develop one's own
discipline and chart reading ability.  Also, it's key to understand Gann,
Fibonacci, Elliot, etc. if only to keep slick talk and slick reasoning from an
extraneous source from pushing you into a speculative position with little else
to support it.

  Sometimes this thread reminds me of the church, where you want to ground your
reasons in scripture.

  (Holy Moly, we actually had a sighting--was it an epiphany?-on Kudlow and
Cramer last night of the Great One, the one who goes by His Initials, His Nibs,
WON.  I hope all the true believers tuned in for the sound bites).

  Hokay, so, let me just cite pages 44-78 and 160-180 in HTMMIS as the basis for
maintaining a broad interest in macro and micro charts and differing approaches.
What's almost laughable is the title of chapter 15:  "How to Read Charts Like an
Expert . . ."

  In only 20 pages!

  Jeff, in response to your original question, as a general matter, it is always
best to look across time frames for confirmation that what you're looking at is
what you're looking at.  If the micro trend (hourly) is good and the daily looks
great, don't forget to check the weekly before you commit.  That is the gist
(and the takeaway) of Elder, at least to me.  The most comprehensive treatment
of triple screening technique (btw, you can get free triple screens on one page
by using Stockcharts' gallery views) is Farley's "Master Swing Trader."  Not a
recommendation quite yet but if you stumbled over a copy it might be worth it to
read a few chapters.

  When you're wondering if you should sell, again you need to check not only the
daily price action but how it all fits into the weekly or monthly charts.  In
the list of books I posted before was Murphy's basic text:  that will give you a
good grounding in many, many topics.

  DMC

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Katherine Malm
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:22 AM
    Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] elder and triple screens


    Hi Jeff and DMC,

    I feel that I need to speak up here.

    While I understand that there are many aspects to trading and that there are
many that can influence and/or be used in CANSLIM investing, Elder triple
screens, Elliott Wave theory, etc., have nothing to do with CANSLIM.

    Let's stay on course so that the folks who are here for a particular
discussion and purpose, CANSLIM, are getting what they expect when they come
here. I wouldn't go to a 5 star French restaurant for a fast food burger. I
wouldn't expect to come to a CANSLIM list for broad trading discussions.

    Focus, simplicity, disclipline and a deep knowledge of the trading
methodology are the hallmarks of Master Traders. Our purpose as members of this
list is to develop that mastery.

    Katherine
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Henderson
      Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:13 AM
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
      Subject: [CANSLIM] elder and triple screens




      DMC,



      Thank you for the book recommendations!  I just read Trading For a Living
and thought is was really informative.  I love his themes and dry humor on
trading “losers”, alcoholics and other psychological dysfunctions.  I loved what
he said about treating trading psychological problems like you’re in AA, “Good
morning, my name is Alex and I am a loser.  I have it in me to do serious
financial damage to my account.” LOL



      Anyway, I have a question regarding his triple screens trading.  Has
anybody used this technical analysis before, and if you have, did you find that
one of the oscillators works better than the others?  I’m using a fast 5 day
stochastic, but I think he really suggests his very own Force Index and
Elder-Ray.  I was also thinking of adjusting his recommended stop losses to
compensate for possible whipsawing.  Any suggestions?  I was thinking of a
moving exit using 1.2 times the 10 day ADR and possibly switching over to the
parabolic system during a runaway trend.



      Thanks,

      Jeff H.



      --Original Message-----
      From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Fred Richards
      Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:05 AM
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
      Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] a random thought



      Katherine is quite correct about using the A/D to help identify stocks to
consider and possibly add to one's portfolio.  I rely on setting up an alert
and/or stop loss point using a trailing stop to protect my position profits.
Then, if we get stopped out of a position, we consider re-buying the position
when the stock regains the stop loss point if the basic fundamentals and other
technical aspects remain within our overall criteria.  If not, we pass on
re-buying.



        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
        Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:43 AM
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
        Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] a random thought

        Hi Jeff,



        In my experience, the A/D is a decent tool when buying into a long
position (limiting buys to A, B or C) but it's a lousy indicator of tops. I
remember in the March of 2000 that all the top stocks still had an "A" rating
long after they'd crashed off their tops. The 13 weeks included in the indicator
makes is a lagging indicator in my mind, too slow to catch the very near term
price action in a stock that often triggers sell rules.



        The IBD says they don't see it as a lagging indicator and that it is one
of their "fastest." Faster? Yes, faster than RS (52 weeks) or GRS (26 weeks),
but not "non-lagging" in my opinion.



        Katherine

          -----Original Message-----
          From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Henderson
          Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:27 AM
          To: Canslim
          Subject: [CANSLIM] a random thought

          I was thinking that accumulation/distributor indicator seems to be a
valuable tool if there is a lot (for lack of a better term) of institutional
sponsorship.  What do y’all think?



          Jeff H.

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003>DMC,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003>Here we &nbsp;respectfully =
recognize WON as=20
the person who put us on this specific investing track. He is one of =
many of our=20
teachers. Respect and idolatry are very different.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003>As I suggested, there are many =
aspects of=20
trading. Some of the folks here are extremely new to CANSLIM. They =
struggle with=20
the simplest aspects of the methodology including reading simple =
price/volume=20
action in a chart, spotting rises and bases, support and resistence, =
etc. They=20
struggle with understanding the difference between an EPS rank and EPS =
quarter=20
over quarter. They struggle with understanding the difference between an =
RSLine=20
and and RSRank. They struggle with understanding how to go about finding =
stocks=20
for their watchlist using CANSLIM parameters. As all of us were =
beginners at one=20
time, the beauty of a list like this is that it provides a safe =
environmnent=20
where one can come and ask questions and those who've been there can =
help. I=20
wish the list had been here when I was a beginning CANSLIMer. It would =
have=20
saved me a boatload of mistakes (and tuition).</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003>Others are not new to CANSLIM, =
they have the=20
basics under control, but they still struggle with sell rules. They =
might be=20
struggling with determining which are the key elements of&nbsp; mining =
for=20
stocks, which order of importance to place on them, etc. They have built =
a=20
personal knowledgebase built on years and years of trading in the =
CANSLIM style=20
and know where minefields and pitfalls tend to be, but low and behold =
discover=20
new ones in a Bear Market. They question their own assumptions, they ask =
for=20
help, they pose questions as to whether the underlying assumptions are =
still=20
valid. They share their experiences with trading this particular =
methodology.=20
And without a doubt they read and study each and every day. They may =
start with=20
20 pages in HTMMIS, but their libraries are filled with books on market =
cycles,=20
technical analysis, value investing, growth investing, mechanical =
systems,&nbsp;=20
market history, etc.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003>But they come here to discuss =
CANSLIM and=20
share their experiences with CANSLIM investing based on what they've=20
learned.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003>Stay on track.&nbsp;There are=20
nearly&nbsp;800 voices on the list.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843592114-12082003>Katherine</SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>DMC197807<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:17 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] elder and =
triple=20
  screens<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Katherine &amp; Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First, I would agree with Katherine =
that a=20
  detailed discussion of what settings to use on different oscillators =
is afield=20
  from the purpose of the board.&nbsp; I'd suggest you scope out the =
Silicon=20
  Investor sites as a starting point:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/sub_hot.gsp">http://www.=
siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/sub_hot.gsp</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As for generalized discussions of how =
to read=20
  charts, etc., what kinds of time-frames to look at, etc., I think =
that's what=20
  makes a good investor no matter what the approach.&nbsp; It is an =
absolutely=20
  vital part of making a keeping profits.&nbsp; In this approach, where =
you=20
  basically sit down with a scanning program that can spit out 10-12 =
names per=20
  day, it is vital to develop one's own discipline and chart reading=20
  ability.&nbsp; Also, it's key to understand Gann, Fibonacci, Elliot, =
etc. if=20
  only to keep slick talk and slick reasoning from an extraneous source =
from=20
  pushing you into a speculative position with little else to support=20
  it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sometimes this thread reminds me of =
the church,=20
  where you want to ground your reasons in scripture.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(Holy Moly, we actually had a =
sighting--was it an=20
  epiphany?-on Kudlow and Cramer last night of the Great One, the one =
who goes=20
  by His Initials, His Nibs, WON.&nbsp; I hope all the true believers =
tuned in=20
  for the sound bites).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hokay, so, let me just cite pages =
44-78 and=20
  160-180 in HTMMIS as the basis for maintaining a broad interest in =
macro and=20
  micro charts and differing approaches.&nbsp; What's almost laughable =
is the=20
  title of chapter 15:&nbsp; "How to Read Charts Like an Expert . .=20
  ."</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In only 20 pages!&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff, in response to your original =
question, as a=20
  general matter, it is always best to look across time frames for =
confirmation=20
  that what you're looking at is what you're looking at.&nbsp; If the =
micro=20
  trend (hourly) is good and the daily looks great, don't forget to =
check the=20
  weekly before you commit.&nbsp; That is the gist (and the takeaway) of =
Elder,=20
  at least to me.&nbsp; The most comprehensive treatment of triple =
screening=20
  technique (btw, you can get free triple screens on one page by using=20
  Stockcharts' gallery views) is Farley's "Master Swing Trader."&nbsp; =
Not a=20
  recommendation quite yet but if you stumbled over a copy it might be =
worth it=20
  to read a few chapters.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When you're wondering if you should =
sell, again=20
  you need to check not only the daily price action but how it all fits =
into the=20
  weekly or monthly charts.&nbsp; In the list of books I posted before =
was=20
  Murphy's basic text:&nbsp; that will give you a good grounding in =
many, many=20
  topics.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DMC</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20
    Malm</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, =
2003 6:22=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] elder =
and triple=20
    screens</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003>Hi Jeff and DMC,</SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003>I feel that I need to speak up =

    here.</SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003>While I understand that there =
are many=20
    aspects to trading and that there are many that can influence and/or =
be used=20
    in CANSLIM investing, Elder triple screens, Elliott Wave theory, =
etc., have=20
    nothing to do with CANSLIM.</SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003></SPAN><SPAN=20
    class=3D343271113-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003>Let's stay on course so that =
the folks=20
    who are here for a particular discussion and purpose, CANSLIM, are =
getting=20
    what they expect when they come here. I wouldn't go to a 5 star =
French=20
    restaurant for a fast food burger. I wouldn't expect to come to a =
CANSLIM=20
    list for broad trading discussions.</SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003>Focus, simplicity, disclipline =
and a=20
    deep knowledge of the&nbsp;trading methodology&nbsp;are the =
hallmarks of=20
    Master Traders. Our purpose as members of this list is to develop =
that=20
    mastery.</SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D343271113-12082003></SPAN><SPAN=20
    class=3D343271113-12082003>Katherine</SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
      owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeff=20
      Henderson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:13 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
      canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] elder and =
triple=20
      screens<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV class=3DSection1>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">DMC,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thank =
you for the=20
      book recommendations!<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>I just=20
      read <U>Trading <SPAN class=3DGramE>For</SPAN> a Living</U> and =
thought is=20
      was really informative.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>I=20
      love his themes and dry humor on trading =93losers=94, alcoholics =
and other=20
      psychological dysfunctions.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I=20
      loved what he said about treating trading psychological problems =
like=20
      you=92re in AA, =93Good morning, my name is Alex and I am a loser. =
<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>I have it in me to do =
serious=20
      financial damage to my account.=94 =
LOL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyway, =
I have a=20
      question regarding his triple screens trading. <SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Has anybody used this =
technical=20
      analysis before, and if you have, did you find that one of the =
oscillators=20
      works better than the others?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
      </SPAN>I=92m using a fast 5 day stochastic, but I think he really =
suggests=20
      his very own Force Index and Elder-Ray.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I was also thinking of =
adjusting=20
      his recommended stop losses to compensate for possible whipsawing. =
<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN class=3DGramE>Any=20
      suggestions?</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>I was=20
      thinking of a moving exit using 1.2 times the 10 day ADR and =
possibly=20
      switching over to the parabolic system during a runaway=20
      trend.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jeff=20
      H.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">--Original=20
      Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
      </SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><F=
ONT=20
      face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">=20
      [mailto:</SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><F=
ONT=20
      face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">]=20
      <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Fred=20
      Richards<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>=20
      </SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year=3D"2003" Day=3D"11" Month=3D"8"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">Monday, August=20
      11, 2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
      Minute=3D"5" Hour=3D"8"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">8:05=20
      AM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
      canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [CANSLIM] a =
random=20
      thought</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial color=3Dblue=20
      size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Katherine is=20
      quite correct about using the A/D to help identify stocks to =
consider and=20
      possibly add to one's portfolio.&nbsp; I rely on setting up an =
alert=20
      and/or stop loss point using a trailing stop to protect my =
position=20
      profits.&nbsp; Then, if we get stopped out of a position, we =
consider=20
      re-buying the position when the stock regains the stop loss point =
if the=20
      basic fundamentals and other technical aspects remain within our =
overall=20
      criteria.&nbsp; If not, we pass on=20
      re-buying.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in">
        <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
        style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT=20
        face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
        Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
        owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] <B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Katherine=20
        Malm<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>=20
        </SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year=3D"2003" Day=3D"11" =
Month=3D"8"><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
        size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">Monday, August=20
        11, 2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
        Minute=3D"43" Hour=3D"7"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">7:43=20
        AM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
        canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [CANSLIM] a =
random=20
        thought</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Hi=20
        Jeff,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">In my=20
        experience, the A/D is a decent tool when buying into a long =
position=20
        (limiting buys to A, B or C) but it's a lousy indicator of tops. =
I=20
        remember in the March of 2000 that all the&nbsp;top stocks still =
had an=20
        "A" rating long after they'd crashed off their tops. The 13 =
weeks=20
        included in the indicator makes is a lagging indicator in my =
mind, too=20
        slow to catch the very near term price action in a stock that =
often=20
        triggers sell rules.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">The IBD says=20
        they don't see it as a lagging indicator and that it is one of =
their=20
        "fastest." Faster? Yes, faster than RS (52 weeks) or GRS (26 =
weeks), but=20
        not "non-lagging" in my =
opinion.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Katherine<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in">
          <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
          style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT=20
          face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
          Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
          owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
          [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jeff=20
          Henderson<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>=20
          </SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year=3D"2003" Day=3D"11" =
Month=3D"8"><FONT=20
          face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Monday, August =
11,=20
          2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
          Minute=3D"27" Hour=3D"6"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">6:27=20
          AM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Canslim<BR><B><SPAN =

          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [CANSLIM] a =
random=20
          thought</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I =
was=20
          thinking that accumulation/distributor indicator seems to be a =

          valuable tool if there is a lot (for lack of a better term) of =

          institutional sponsorship.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
          </SPAN>What do y=92all think?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
          </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Jeff=20
          =
H.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUO=
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