RE: [CANSLIM] RE: References (was: stock software)


From: "Jeff Henderson" <JHend746@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] RE: References (was: stock software)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:49:06 -0500

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Thanks again Katherine!
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:37 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] RE: References (was: stock software)
 
Hi Jeff,
 
It's hard to pin down the "best" of my library, so let me just select a
few that would be most appropriate for a new CANSLIMer (some of these
overlap):
 
Straight forward technicals/reading charts:
- -Stan Weinstein "Secrets for Profiting in Bull & Bear Markets". Straight
forward look at charts, moving averages, entry, exit, setting stops.
Also covers shorting in the most common sense fashion I've seen in any
book.
- -Nicolas Darvas "How I Made $2m in the Stock Market". Gets down to the
essence of looking for support and resistance. Give you a simplistic way
to view stock selection, entry/exit, and charts in general. Darvas calls
them "boxes" but the general concept holds true. Also a very good take
on how overtrading and second guessing your rules can get you in *big*
trouble.
- -William L. Jiler "How Charts Can Help You in the Stock Market." Very
straightforward view of reading charts. Short, sweet and to the point.
- -O'Neil "HTMMIS". Lays the foundation. Reread it at least once per year
and find new depth of understanding each time.
- -Investor's Corner. It used to be impossible to list this as a resource.
I've saved the articles since before the column was even called
"Investor's Corner." It used to be organized into sections in a "CANSLIM
binder" but has now expanded to a file drawer, organized and filed by
topic. I pull a folder on a particular subject and read/reread the
examples repeatedly. Again, new depth of understanding in each read. Use
the archives for this and "Ask Bill" to start a regular study program.
- -Weblink. This is the equivalent of creating your own examples binder,
though I think all CANSLIMers should save examples that catch their eye,
notate them, and keep them for future reference. This, in addition to
charts for each trade with personal annotations are an enormous learning
tool. Go back to old charts, read your personal notations and see how
far you've come over the years. Note things you missed when the trade
was "live".
 
Accounting/Fundamentals:
- -If you're not familiar with accounting/financial terms, get the basics
under your belt. There are plenty of "Accounting 101" books, but find
one that focuses on reading and interpreting financial statements.
There's one book in particular that several members of the list have
found to be a particularly good intro book, but I'm blanking out on the
title. (Hopefully ANN H. will see this and remind me.)
- -Howard Schilit "Financial Shenanigans". I've read a lot of case studies
and other texts on this subject, but I like the author's take on things.
Learn the pitfalls of reading financial statements and you'll know what
red flags to look for when reviewing the details.
 
General:
- -Gerald M. Loeb "The Battle for Investment Survival." Sound investing
principles 101. Originally published in 1935, the principles are
timeless.
- -Edwin Lefevre "Reminiscences of a Stock Operator". The story of Jesse
Livermore who understood how to exploit the tape in both directions.
Livermore was a mess, but when he wasn't womanizing and spending money
out the wazoo, he actually did incredibly well. This and Loeb's book
were extremely influential on O'Neil.
- -Benjamin Graham "The Intelligent Investor." Get down to the essence of
what creates value in a stock. These principles, though applied
differently in specific trading methodologies are nonetheless universal.
Though an important book, it's a sleeping pill, so be careful where
you're sitting when you read it.
- -In general, the more you read on styles *other* than CANSLIM, the more
you see the underlying thread that unites them all. Have a keen
awareness of what makes a trading system successful is the key to
exploiting it.
 
Psychology:
- -Ruth Barrons Roosevelt "12 Habitudes of Highly Successful Traders." No
doubt about it, traders are their own worst enemies. An honest
assessment of personal attitudes and how they get in the way of good
trading can make the difference between success and failure. Short,
sweet and powerful book.
- -Mark Douglas "The Disciplined Trader". Mark wouldn't admit it to me,
but I think his methodologies are deeply rooted in Neuro Linguistic
Programming (NLP). Covers belief systems, changing behaviors, etc., all
NLP stuff and very powerful.
- -John G. Kappas "Success Is Not an Accident." You want real tools to
manage your behaviors? Set up a mental bank. This book is long out of
print, but if you can find a copy it's worth the effort.
 
That should keep you busy for a while!
 
Katherine
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Henderson
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:29 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock software
Hey Katherine,
 
I was just curious about your recommendations on book readings.  DMX
gave some great choices.
 
Thanks,
Jeff
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of DMC197807
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:42 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock software
 
Jeff,
 
Those are 3 good books.  Only about 50 more to go!
 
I actually think that Van Tharp's book and Stan Weinstein's book are the
first pillars of wisdom here, both well-written and logical.  Van &
Stan, sounds like a car dealership.
 
Here is a basic list I made up for a young man (college boy) who wanted
to learn about TA and trading.  It's about 1/3 the books I have (I find
Farley, Pring and Dorsey to be harder slogging in the initial rounds, so
put them off to later--by that time you'll be able to choose your own
books) and I'm sure that others may vote for different books in the
intial cut, but that's what makes a market, even in books:
 
E= Elder, Trading for a Living
IBD=  Investors Business Daily
M= Murphy, Technical Analysis of the Financial Markets
Ma=  Moving Averages Simplified (Drokes)
Mc=McMillan, Options as a Strategic Investment
Mo= Morris, Candlestick Charting Explained
Ni= Nison,  Beyond Candlesticks
Vt=  Van Tharp, Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom 
Ta= Technical Analysis of Stocks & Commodities (magazine)
W= Weinstein, Secrets of Profiting in Bull & Bear Markets
 
Things I don't find helpful in the early stages of learning are:  Gann,
Fibonacci and Bulkowski's chart analysis.
 
DMC
 
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jeff Henderson <mailto:JHend746@cox.net>  
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock software
 
I read
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0070480176/arbtrading-20/> How
to Make Money in Stocks: A Winning System in Good Times or Bad by
William O'Neill and
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0070647623/arbtrading-20/> Trade
Your Way to Financial Freedom by  K. Tharp and Nicholas Darvas's book
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0818403969/arbtrading-20/> How I
Made 2,000,000 in the Stock Market
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of DMC197807
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:56 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock software
 
Jeff,
 
If you are a college student then I suggest you spend zero dollars for
software.  You no doubt have access to high speed internet access (aka
the Big Pipe).  You should be able to utilize a lot of free sites
(including this one) to get some education.  I'd suggest using the MSN
site for scanning, the free section of stockcharts.com for charting (and
education) and the library for borrowing books.  You can lurk at a
number of for-pay investment sites (SI comes to mind) and learn from a
number of very wise people.  Most investment sites have an extensive
education spot (check out stockcharts, Bernie Schaefer).
 
If you're going to college in or near a big city, I'd suggest signing up
for free presentations/seminars offered by TC2K, Metastock, 21st Century
Investor Educ. Center (options), etc.  If your college has a business
school you might look for a finance course, if it's Univ of Penna, you
might hang out at the Wharton School, etc.  Also, check to see if your
school has an investment club/group/etc.  These can be very
sophisticated, although they almost always are enamored of an FA
approach.
 
Btw, "I just got finished reading 3 stock books and I'm getting anxious
about trading" is a dangerous sentence to read.  The market stands
ready, willing and able to separate you from your brokerage account.
I'm not saying "don't tread," but rather, "tread very carefully."
 
Which 3 stock books did you read?
 
DMC
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jeff Henderson <mailto:JHend746@cox.net>  
To: Canslim <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:57 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] stock software
 
Does anybody have any recommendations for stock software?  I'm looking
for getting the most for my $ plus I'm a college student so, I really
don't have to much money to spend (<$100).  Sorry if I'm asking too many
questions but it's my first day and I just got finished reading 3 stock
books and I'm getting anxious about trading.
 
Thanks,
Jeff H.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks again =
Katherine!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [CANSLIM] RE: =
References
(was: stock software)</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Jeff,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>It's hard to pin down the &quot;best&quot; of =
my
library, so let me just select a few that would be most appropriate for =
a new
CANSLIMer (some of these overlap):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Straight forward technicals/reading =
charts:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Stan Weinstein &quot;Secrets for Profiting =
in Bull &amp;
Bear Markets&quot;. Straight forward look at charts, moving averages, =
entry,
exit, setting stops. Also covers shorting in the most common sense =
fashion I've
seen in any book.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Nicolas Darvas &quot;How I Made $2m in the =
Stock
Market&quot;. Gets down to the essence of looking for support and =
resistance.
Give you a simplistic way to view stock selection, entry/exit,&nbsp;and =
charts
in general. Darvas calls them &quot;boxes&quot; but the general concept =
holds
true. Also a very good take on how overtrading and second guessing your =
rules
can get you in *big* trouble.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-William L. Jiler &quot;How Charts Can Help =
You in the
Stock Market.&quot; Very straightforward view of reading charts. Short, =
sweet
and to the point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-O'Neil &quot;HTMMIS&quot;. Lays the =
foundation.
Reread it at least once per year and find new depth of understanding =
each time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Investor's Corner. It used to be impossible =
to list
this as a resource. I've saved the articles since before the column was =
even
called &quot;Investor's Corner.&quot; It used to be organized into =
sections in
a &quot;CANSLIM binder&quot; but has now expanded to a file drawer, =
organized
and filed&nbsp;by topic. I pull a folder on a particular subject and
read/reread the examples repeatedly. Again, new depth of understanding =
in each
read. Use the archives for this and &quot;Ask Bill&quot; to start a =
regular
study program.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Weblink. This is the equivalent of creating =
your own
examples binder, though I think all CANSLIMers should save examples that =
catch
their eye, notate them, and keep them for future reference. This, in =
addition
to charts for each trade with personal annotations are an enormous =
learning
tool. Go back to old charts, read your personal notations and see how =
far
you've come over the years. Note things you missed when the trade was
&quot;live&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Accounting/Fundamentals:<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-If you're not familiar with =
accounting/financial
terms, get the basics under your belt. There are plenty of =
&quot;Accounting
101&quot; books, but find one that focuses on reading and interpreting
financial statements. There's one book in particular that several =
members of
the list have found to be a particularly good intro book, but I'm =
blanking out
on the title. (Hopefully ANN H.&nbsp;will see this and remind =
me.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Howard Schilit &quot;Financial =
Shenanigans&quot;.
I've read a lot of case studies and other texts on this subject, but I =
like the
author's take on things. Learn the pitfalls of reading financial =
statements and
you'll know what red flags to look for when reviewing the =
details.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>General:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Gerald M. Loeb &quot;The Battle for =
Investment
Survival.&quot; Sound investing principles 101. Originally published in =
1935,
the principles are timeless.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Edwin Lefevre &quot;Reminiscences of a Stock
Operator&quot;. The story of Jesse Livermore who understood how to =
exploit the
tape in both directions. Livermore was a mess, but when he wasn't =
womanizing
and spending money out the wazoo, he actually did incredibly well. This =
and
Loeb's book were extremely influential on =
O'Neil.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Benjamin Graham &quot;The Intelligent =
Investor.&quot;
Get down to the essence of what creates value in a stock. These =
principles,
though applied differently in specific trading methodologies are =
nonetheless
universal. Though an important book, it's a sleeping pill, so be careful =
where
you're sitting when you read it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-In general, the more you read on styles =
*other* than
CANSLIM, the more you see the underlying thread that unites them all. =
Have a
keen awareness of what makes a trading system successful is the key to
exploiting it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Psychology:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Ruth Barrons Roosevelt &quot;12 Habitudes of =
Highly
Successful Traders.&quot; No doubt about it, traders are their own worst
enemies. An honest assessment of personal attitudes and how they get in =
the way
of good trading can make the difference between success and failure. =
Short,
sweet and powerful book.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-Mark Douglas &quot;The Disciplined =
Trader&quot;. Mark
wouldn't admit it to me, but I think his methodologies are deeply rooted =
in
Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP). Covers belief systems, changing =
behaviors,
etc., all NLP stuff and very powerful.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-John G. Kappas &quot;Success Is Not an
Accident.&quot; You want real tools to manage your behaviors? Set up a =
mental
bank. This book is long out of print, but if you can find a copy it's =
worth the
effort.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>That should keep you busy for a =
while!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Katherine<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jeff Henderson<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August =
13, 2003
6:29 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
canslim@lists.xmission.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [CANSLIM] =
stock
software</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hey =
Katherine,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I was just =
curious about
your recommendations on book readings.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;
</span>DMX gave some great choices.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jeff<o:p></o:p></=
span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>DMC197807<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"8" Day=3D"7" Year=3D"2003"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Thursday, August 07, =
2003</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"12" Minute=3D"42"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Tahoma'>12:42 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
canslim@lists.xmission.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CANSLIM] =
stock
software</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jeff,</span></font><o:p></o:=
p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Those are 3 good =
books.&nbsp; Only
about 50 more to go!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I actually think that Van =
Tharp's
book and Stan Weinstein's book are the first pillars of wisdom here, =
both
well-written and logical.&nbsp; Van &amp; Stan, sounds like a car =
dealership.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Here is a basic list I made =
up for a
young man (college boy) who wanted to learn about TA and trading.&nbsp; =
It's
about 1/3 the books I have (I find Farley, Pring and Dorsey to be harder
slogging in the initial rounds, so put them off to later--by that time =
you'll
be able to choose your own books) and I'm sure that others may vote for
different books in the intial cut, but that's what makes a market, even =
in
books:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>E=3D Elder, Trading for a =
Living<br>
IBD=3D&nbsp; Investors Business Daily<br>
M=3D Murphy, Technical Analysis of the Financial Markets<br>
Ma=3D&nbsp; Moving Averages Simplified (Drokes)<br>
Mc=3DMcMillan, Options as a Strategic Investment<br>
Mo=3D Morris, Candlestick Charting Explained<br>
Ni=3D Nison,&nbsp; Beyond Candlesticks<br>
Vt=3D&nbsp; Van Tharp, Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom =
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ta=3D Technical Analysis of =
Stocks
&amp; Commodities (magazine)<br>
W=3D Weinstein, Secrets of Profiting in Bull &amp; Bear =
Markets</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Things I don't find helpful =
in the
early stages of learning are:&nbsp; Gann, Fibonacci and Bulkowski's =
chart
analysis.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>DMC</span></font><o:p></o:p>=
</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black =
1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;
margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'=
>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message =
- ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div style=3D'font-color:black'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:1.0in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:JHend746@cox.net"
title=3D"JHend746@cox.net">Jeff Henderson</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span><=
/font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com" =
title=3D"canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span=
></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"8" Day=3D"6" Year=3D"2003"><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Wednesday, August 06, =
2003</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"13" Minute=3D"2"><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Arial'>1:02 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</s=
pan></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE:
[CANSLIM] stock software<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I read =
</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><a
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=3D0070480176/arbtrading-20=
/"><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>How to Make Money in Stocks: A =
Winning
System in Good Times or Bad</span></font></a> by William O&#8217;Neill =
and <a
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=3D0070647623/arbtrading-20=
/"><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>Trade Your Way to Financial =
Freedom</span></font></a>
by &nbsp;K. Tharp and </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Nicholas Darvas&#8217;s =
book </span></font><u><font
size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><a
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=3D0818403969/arbtrading-20=
/"><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>How I Made 2,000,000 in the =
Stock Market</span></font></a></span></font></u><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</a>
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>DMC197807<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"8" Day=3D"6" Year=3D"2003"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Wednesday, August 06, =
2003</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"14" Minute=3D"56"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Tahoma'>2:56 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
canslim@lists.xmission.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CANSLIM] =
stock
software</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jeff,</span></font><o:p></o:=
p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If you are a college =
student then I
suggest you spend zero dollars for software.&nbsp; You no doubt have =
access to
high speed internet access (aka the Big Pipe).&nbsp; You should be able =
to
utilize a lot of free sites (including this one) to get some =
education.&nbsp;
I'd suggest using the MSN site for scanning, the free section of
stockcharts.com for charting (and education) and the library for =
borrowing
books.&nbsp; You can lurk at a number of for-pay investment sites (SI =
comes to
mind) and learn from a number of very wise people.&nbsp; Most investment =
sites
have an extensive education spot (check out stockcharts, Bernie =
Schaefer).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If you're going to college =
in or
near a big city, I'd suggest signing up for free presentations/seminars =
offered
by TC2K, Metastock, 21st Century Investor Educ. Center (options), =
etc.&nbsp; If
your college has a business school you might look for a finance course, =
if it's
Univ of Penna, you might hang out at the =
</span></font><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><font
  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Wharton</span></font></st1:P=
laceName><font
 size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> =
</span></font><st1:PlaceType><font
  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>School</span></font></st1:Pl=
aceType></st1:place><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, etc.&nbsp;
Also, check to see if your school has an investment =
club/group/etc.&nbsp; These
can be very sophisticated, although they almost always are enamored of =
an FA
approach.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Btw, &quot;I just got =
finished
reading 3 stock books and I&#8217;m getting anxious about trading&quot; =
is a
dangerous sentence to read.&nbsp; The market stands ready, willing and =
able to
separate you from your brokerage account.&nbsp; I'm not saying =
&quot;don't
tread,&quot; but rather, &quot;tread very =
carefully.&quot;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Which 3 stock books did you =
read?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>DMC</span></font><o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message =
- ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:1.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:JHend746@cox.net"
title=3D"JHend746@cox.net">Jeff Henderson</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span><=
/font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com" =
title=3D"canslim@lists.xmission.com">Canslim</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span=
></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"8" Day=3D"6" Year=3D"2003"><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Wednesday, August 06, =
2003</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"11" Minute=3D"57"><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Arial'>11:57 AM</span></font></st1:time><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</s=
pan></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [CANSLIM]
stock software<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Does anybody have any
recommendations for stock software?<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;
</span>I&#8217;m looking for getting the most for my $ plus I&#8217;m a =
college
student so, I really don&#8217;t have to much money to spend =
(&lt;$100).<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Sorry if I&#8217;m asking too =
many
questions but it&#8217;s my first day and I just got finished reading 3 =
stock
books and I&#8217;m getting anxious about =
trading.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jeff =
H.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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