RE: [CANSLIM] Another mystery plunge


From: "Harold Josephson" <hj@hjosephson.com>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Another mystery plunge
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 23:44:10 -0700

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Hi Katherine,

=20

For an otherwise seemingly bright fellow, WON does seem to have a rather
loose grip on his best interest with respect to the value of "free" =
speech
that uses his vocabulary.

=20

Best,

=20

Harold

=20

Harold Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com=20

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 1:31 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Another mystery plunge

=20

Hi Gene,

=20

There is never intention to stray from CANSLIM principles. As you know, =
I am
very much a purist in my interpretation of CANSLIM, though I do =
recognize
and speak freely on the limitations and pitfalls of IBD industry and =
stock
rankings. In all of our help files we also caution about the limitations =
of
each particular measurement, whether it is the CE score or an industry
ranking/score.  CE scores are not intended to emulate IBD's proprietary
rankings such as SMR/EPS/Timeliness/AD and other Stock Checkup rankings =
that
they use on the Investors.com site so you there is not a comparison of =
one
vs. another. Instead, we provide a way for people to grasp the general
technical health of the stock (CET) and the how closely the stock's
fundamentals match the CANSLIM yardstick (CEF). Again, neither of these =
are
used to identify stocks setting up, just the technical price action of =
the
stock. The help files throughout the site itself explain industry ranks,
ranks within industry, etc, so I will not go into them here, as that =
would
not be appropriate for general discussion on a public CANSLIM list. The =
help
file on the charts, which we also make available to CANSLIM list =
members,
give the definitions of key items such as comparative RS (RS Line), RS =
(RS
Rank), U/D ratio etc.  See it by clicking on the help file on a chart:

=20

http://www.breakoutwatch.com/charts/kmchart.php

=20

These are the same as the indicators you see on IBD/DGO charts, as they =
are
standardized technical measurements, not IBD proprietary measurements. =
The
only difference is that we do not include Canadian stocks in our =
database as
does IBD/DGO, so our RSRanks are slightly different as a result. The =
same is
true of HGSI/QP2, which also does not include Canadian stocks.=20

=20

As you know, over the years, the DGO/IBD staff and lawyers lurk on our =
list.
They have made a habit of sending legal letters or making phone calls =
from
their lawyers to individuals on this list when they feel their =
proprietary
data is being encroached. That effectively prevents any of us from using =
one
of their IBD or DGO charts for annotations during a discussion, and for =
the
most part from even *mentioning* the values of proprietary indicators =
such
as SMR, EPS, AD, etc. In my discussion with the head of the Wm O'Neil
Corporation, I asked why they did not allow us to use these for =
discussions,
as it was difficult to have meaningful CANSLIM discussions by the book =
when
we were not allowed to quote these values. I asked in vein if they would =
be
willing to provide our list with good faith guidelines, as using their =
data
and their products in discussion actually promoted the use of their
products. They did not respond.

=20

As a result, Mike & I wanted to provide an alternative for list members =
that
would allow them, without fear of retribution, be able to discuss the
fundamental and/or technical attributes of a stock, and that was the =
reason
we continue to make both the CANSLIM evaluator and our charts available =
to
folks here on the list.=20

=20

Katherine

=20

=20

=20

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:39 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Another mystery plunge

Katherine, many thanks for the links to the explanation of the BOW
terminology. Using terms different than the IBD language is hard on =
those
that don't subscribe.  In fact, getting agreement on the meaning of IBD
terminology is a chore in itself. I hope that this user group doesn't =
stray
far from the WON concepts/terminology that took me quite some to learn =
and
gain a minimal working knowledge of.....

=20

If my interpretation of the BOW terminology is correct, CET does not =
stand
for TA but rather a minimum set of objective technical criteria that is =
part
of your service. I couldn't find a matrix showing how your definitions =
match
IBD's definitions.

=20

Can I assume that your numbers for the following match IBDs?

1. RS

2. Industry Rank prior to the secondary sort

3. Up/Down Ratio

=20

BTW, the new design of your site looks to be user friendly!

=20

regards,

Gene

=20

- ----- Original Message -----=20

From: Katherine Malm <mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net> =20

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20

Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:36 AM

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Another mystery plunge

=20

Gene,

=20

Please see the help file on our CE scores at:

http://www.breakoutwatch.com/canslim/CE_methodology.htm

=20

This file is available by clicking the "Help" button on the Canslim
Evaluator, which we make available to the CANSLIM list members who wish =
to
use it

http://www.breakoutwatch.com/canslim/ <http://www.breakoutwatch.com/>=20

=20

On CET specifically (from the help file, emphasis added),

=20

"In How to Make Money in Stocks, O'Neil describes the preferred =
technical
condition of a stock at the time of a breakout, but does not provide a =
more
general description of a "technically healthy" stock. As the goal of the =
CET
is to provide some means of determining the technical health of a stock
whether or not it is setting up for a breakout, we assign a score based =
on
objective measurements of the stock's price/volume action over the
intermediate to long term. Scores do not take into account very near =
term
action of the stock such as a recent breakdown, reversal, a broken
short-term trend etc. "

=20

Katherine

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:21 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Another mystery plunge

Hong, can you translate CET terminology into IBD jargon?=20

=20

Thanks,

Gene

- ----- Original Message -----=20

From: Hong <mailto:honghsu@bellatlantic.net>  Hsu=20

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20

Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:12 AM

Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Another mystery plunge

=20

     DMC,

    For OSTE, the total TA score  (CET) from breakoutwatch.com is 6.8=20
out of 7.  With that score I will tend to believe it has solid TA.  Does =

it?   Maybe Katherine could share her insight.

    -Hong



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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Arial =
Black"><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black";color:navy'>Hi =
Katherine,</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Arial =
Black"><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Arial =
Black"><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black";color:navy'>For an =
otherwise
seemingly bright fellow, WON does seem to have a rather loose grip on =
his best
interest with respect to the value of &#8220;free&#8221; speech that =
uses his
vocabulary.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Arial =
Black"><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Arial =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black";color:navy'>Harold</span></font></p>

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 color:navy'>Harold Josephson</span></font><font size=3D2 =
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Tel: 323.850.1333<br>
Fax: 323.512.8968<br>
hj@hjosephson.com</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span =
style=3D'color:navy'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Mes</span></font><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>sa</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>ge-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font =
size=3D2
 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>owner-canslim@lists.xmissio=
n.com</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
[mailto:</span></font><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>owner-canslim@lists.xmissio=
n.com</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><font =
size=3D2
 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Katherine =
Malm</span></font><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 25, =
2003 1:31
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
canslim@lists.xmission.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [CANSLIM] =
Another
mystery plunge</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Gene,</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>There is never intention to stray from =
CANSLIM
principles. As you know, I am very much a purist in my interpretation of
CANSLIM, though I do recognize and speak freely on the limitations and
pitfalls&nbsp;of IBD industry and stock rankings. In all of our help =
files we
also caution about the limitations of&nbsp;each particular measurement, =
whether
it is the CE score or an industry ranking/score.&nbsp;&nbsp;CE scores =
are not
intended to emulate IBD's proprietary rankings such as =
SMR/EPS/Timeliness/AD
and other Stock Checkup rankings that they use on the Investors.com site =
so you
there is not a comparison of one vs. another. Instead, we provide a way =
for
people to grasp the general technical health of the stock (CET) and the =
how closely
the stock's fundamentals match the CANSLIM yardstick (CEF).
Again,&nbsp;neither&nbsp;of these are used to&nbsp;identify stocks =
setting up,
just the&nbsp;technical price action of the stock.&nbsp;The help files
throughout the site itself explain industry ranks, ranks within =
industry, etc,
so I will not go into them here, as that would not be appropriate for =
general
discussion on a public CANSLIM list. The help file on the charts, which =
we also
make available to CANSLIM list members, give the definitions of key =
items such
as comparative RS (RS Line), RS (RS Rank), U/D ratio etc.&nbsp; See it =
by
clicking on the help file on a chart:</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><a
href=3D"http://www.breakoutwatch.com/charts/kmchart.php">http://www.break=
outwatch.com/charts/kmchart.php</a></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>These are the same as the indicators you see =
on
IBD/DGO charts, as they are standardized technical measurements, not IBD
proprietary measurements. The only difference is that we do not include
Canadian stocks in our database as does IBD/DGO, so our RSRanks are =
slightly
different as a result. The same is true of HGSI/QP2, which also does not
include Canadian stocks. </span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>As you know, over the years, the DGO/IBD =
staff and
lawyers lurk on our list. They have made a habit of sending legal =
letters or
making phone calls from their lawyers to individuals on this list when =
they
feel their proprietary data is being encroached. That effectively =
prevents any
of us from using one of their IBD or DGO charts for annotations during a
discussion, and for the most part from even *mentioning* the values of
proprietary indicators such as SMR, EPS, AD, etc. In my discussion with =
the
head of the Wm O'Neil Corporation, I asked why they did not allow us to =
use
these for discussions, as it was difficult to have meaningful CANSLIM
discussions by the book when we were not allowed to quote these values. =
I asked
in vein if they would be willing to provide our list with good faith
guidelines, as using their data and their products in discussion =
actually
promoted the use of their products. They did not =
respond.</span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>As a result, Mike &amp; I wanted to provide =
an
alternative for list members that would allow them, without fear of
retribution, be able to discuss the fundamental and/or technical =
attributes of
a stock, and that was the reason we continue to make both the CANSLIM =
evaluator
and our charts available to folks here on the list. </span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Katherine</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gene Ricci<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 25, =
2003 12:39
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
canslim@lists.xmission.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Another
mystery plunge</span></font></p>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Katherine, many =
thanks for
the links to the explanation of the BOW terminology. Using terms =
different than
the IBD language is hard on those that don't subscribe.&nbsp; In fact, =
getting
agreement on the meaning of IBD terminology is a chore in itself. =
I&nbsp;hope
that this user group doesn't&nbsp;stray&nbsp;far from the WON
concepts/terminology that took&nbsp;me quite some to&nbsp;learn and =
gain&nbsp;a
minimal working knowledge of.....</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>If my =
interpretation of
the BOW terminology is correct, CET does not stand for TA but rather a =
minimum
set of objective technical criteria that is part of your service. I =
couldn't
find a matrix showing&nbsp;how your definitions&nbsp;match IBD's =
definitions.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Can I assume that =
your
numbers&nbsp;for the following match IBDs?</span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>1. =
RS</span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>2. Industry Rank =
prior to
the secondary sort</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>3. Up/Down =
Ratio</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>BTW, the new =
design of
your site looks to be user friendly!</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>regards,</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>Gene</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message =
- ----- </span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=3D2
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span=
></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net" =
title=3D"kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine Malm</a>
</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span><=
/font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com" =
title=3D"canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
</span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span=
></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday,
July 25, 2003 11:36 AM</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</s=
pan></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE:
[CANSLIM] Another mystery plunge</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Gene,</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Please see the help file on our CE scores =
at:</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><a
href=3D"http://www.breakoutwatch.com/canslim/CE_methodology.htm">http://w=
ww.breakoutwatch.com/canslim/CE_methodology.htm</a></span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>This file is available by clicking the
&quot;Help&quot; button on the Canslim Evaluator, which we make =
available to
the CANSLIM list members who wish to use it</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><a =
href=3D"http://www.breakoutwatch.com/canslim/">http://www.breakoutwatch.c=
om/canslim/</a><a
href=3D"http://www.breakoutwatch.com/"></a></span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On CET specifically (from the help file, =
emphasis
added),</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&quot;In <i><span =
style=3D'font-style:italic'>How to
Make Money in Stocks, </span></i>O&#8217;Neil describes the preferred =
technical
condition of a stock at the time of a breakout, but does not provide a =
more
general description of a &#8220;technically healthy&#8221; stock. As the =
goal
of the CET is to provide some means of determining the technical health =
of a
stock whether or not it is setting up for a breakout, we assign a score =
based
on objective measurements of the stock&#8217;s price/volume action over =
the
intermediate to long term. <strong><b><i><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-style:italic'>Scores do not take into account very near =
term action
of the stock such as a recent breakdown, reversal, a broken short-term =
trend
etc.</span></font></i></b></strong> <em><i><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman">&quot;</font></i></em></span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Katherine</span></font></p>

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<blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gene Ricci<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font =
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Friday, July
 25, 2003</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>10:21 =
AM</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
canslim@lists.xmission.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Another
mystery plunge</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Hong, can you =
translate
CET terminology into IBD jargon? </span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>Thanks,</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>Gene</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=3D2
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span=
></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:honghsu@bellatlantic.net" =
title=3D"honghsu@bellatlantic.net">Hong
Hsu</a> </span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span><=
/font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com" =
title=3D"canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span=
></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font =
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Friday, July 25,
 2003</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>11:12 AM</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</s=
pan></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[CANSLIM] Another mystery plunge</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DMC,<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; For OSTE, the total TA score&nbsp; (CET) from
breakoutwatch.com is 6.8 <br>
out of 7.&nbsp; With that score I will tend to believe it has solid =
TA.&nbsp;
Does <br>
it?&nbsp;&nbsp; Maybe Katherine could share her insight.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Hong<br>
<br>
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