Re: [CANSLIM] negatives of CANSLIM


From: "Gene Ricci" <genr@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] negatives of CANSLIM
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 21:25:47 -0500

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Jeff, you're going to be highly disappointed if you think that CANSLIM =
is a mechanical system.=20

Although I'm an advocate of many of Van Tharp's teachings..... I =
wouldn't call on him to discuss charts and/or the worthiness of =
patterns.=20

Gene

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jeff Henderson=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:06 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] negatives of CANSLIM


  Also I would never do percent stop losses or at least keep it at a =
flat rate.  I think moving stop losses based on volatility seem more =
logical.

  =20

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Henderson
  Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:18 PM
  To: Canslim
  Subject: [CANSLIM] negatives of CANSLIM

  =20

  Hi group,

  =20

  I'm glad that we can discuss companies using CANSLIM to evaluate =
companies, but I was wondering if any of you think there are any =
negatives to this system (as discussed in HTMMIS).  I think it's =
important to fully evaluate a system, look for any absolutes or =
conditionals in the system and evaluate it against other options.  For =
example I know CANSLIM works the best during a bull market and we are =
not in a full fledged bull market right now.  Also, as far as using =
WON's entry signals, specifically the chart patterns, I will quote Tharp =
from his book, Trade your way to Financial Freedom re:Chart patterns in =
general "However, such patterns are very difficult to computerize and =
thus test.  In addition when people do test these various patterns, they =
do not find anyevidence that they increase the reliability of entry =
signals beyond the 50 percent level."  I do not doubt WON's methods, but =
I believe that skepticism is healthy and that is beneficial to discuss =
potential flaws in a system.

  =20

  Jeff

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Jeff,&nbsp;you're going to be highly=20
disappointed if you think that CANSLIM is&nbsp;a mechanical system.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Although I'm an advocate&nbsp;of many =
of Van=20
Tharp's teachings.....&nbsp;I wouldn't call on him to =
discuss&nbsp;charts and/or=20
the worthiness of patterns. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DJHend746@cox.net href=3D"mailto:JHend746@cox.net">Jeff =
Henderson</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 17, 2003 =
5:06=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
negatives of=20
  CANSLIM</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also I =
would never do=20
  percent stop losses or at least keep it at a flat rate.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I think moving stop losses =
based on=20
  volatility seem more logical.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A>=20
  [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] <B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jeff =
Henderson<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date =
Year=3D"2003"=20
  Day=3D"17" Month=3D"8"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Sunday, August 17,=20
  2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
  Minute=3D"18" Hour=3D"16"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">4:18=20
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Canslim<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [CANSLIM] negatives of =

  CANSLIM</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi=20
  group,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I=92m glad that we can =
discuss=20
  companies using CANSLIM to evaluate companies, but I was wondering if =
any of=20
  you think there are any negatives to this system (as discussed in=20
  HTMMIS).<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I think it=92s =
important=20
  to fully evaluate a system, look for any absolutes or conditionals in =
the=20
  system and evaluate it against other options.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>For example I know CANSLIM =
works the=20
  best during a bull market and we are not in a full fledged bull market =
right=20
  now.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Also, as far as =
using WON=92s=20
  entry signals, specifically the chart patterns, I will quote Tharp =
from his=20
  book, <U>Trade your way to Financial Freedom</U> re:Chart patterns in =
general=20
  =93However, such patterns are very difficult to computerize and thus =
test.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>In addition when people do =
test these=20
  various patterns, they do not find anyevidence that they increase the=20
  reliability of entry signals beyond the 50 percent level.=94<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I do not doubt WON=92s =
methods, but I=20
  believe that skepticism is healthy and that is beneficial to discuss =
potential=20
  flaws in a system.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Jeff<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>=


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