Re: Medicare/Medicaid - Running out of assets

From: "L. Chen" <am302@FreeNet.Buffalo.EDU>
Subject: Re: Medicare/Medicaid - Running out of assets
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:01:03 -0400 (EDT)

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> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:39:28 -0500
> From: nowak@comm.mot.com (Mark Nowak)
> Subject: Re: Medicare/Medicaid - Running out of assets
> ................................
> I resent the system that makes this the smartest way to deal with the issue
> for most people.  This wouldn't happen in a system in which everyone
> was insured or we had socialized medicine.  Without those things, a grass
> roots movement to change the system or a sensible legislature, intelligent
> people cannot be blamed for looking out for themselves.  Capitalism is based
> on survival of the fittest.  It would be unAmerican to spend money if you
> could find a way not to.  If greedy politicians or lobbyists aren't looking out
> for your self interests or those of your family, don't blame people for
> doing what they can to look out for themselves.  In a sense, our policians
> become our role models for better or for worse.
> .........................

I am not aware of any requirement that we have to model ourselves after anyone
- -- including the politicians !!

And I guess you and I have different philosophies with respect to whether we
should "look out for ourselves" through immoral/unethical means -- the end
justify the means ??


> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:53:55 -0500
> From: John Wallace <JWallace@karta.com>
> Subject: RE: medicaid means testing ...

> >............................. 
> >So I say that the "... people who scam the system and play us for suckers."
> >are the politicians who have been deliberately lying to the public for all
> >these years, rather than Mr. Timken & his mother who are simply trying to
> >grab as much as the law allows from a rapidly shrinking pie (in the sky).
> >People cling to the "I paid into the system argument" not to reduce any
> >"welfare stigma" but rather because this is the Big Lie that their "leaders"
> >have been telling them since day one.     

One can argue that our "leaders" have been misrepresenting to us about social
security (retirement); but I never got the impression that the gov't will
insure us against poor health -- except *to the extent of medicare*.  Everyone
of us that have medical insurance are insure either through the
individuals'/employers' payments. 

And medicaid has always been a program for the people that can't afford it. 

Chen




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