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The "Deep Space Scope" Design

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Overview

In the last few years, I have decided that I needed a specialized telescope, and that it was time to build it. The following links deal with designing, building and using a homebuilt 12" ultra light dob, DS-3 (Deep Space 3).  Although this was my first amateur telescope making adventure, it ended up working out quite well.  Finally, I want to give credit to my mentor and fellow ATM partner, Jim Lawrence.  Without Jim's help, as well as the advice of other members of the local Albuquerque astronomy club (TAAS), this ultra light telescope would never have been attempted.  Links to Jim's telescope that served as a prototype for DS-3, along with his ongoing work on binocular telescopes can be found in the Astronomy Links section of this web site.  Be sure to check out his 300mm Telescope (my prototype) and his 300mm Binocular (my dream scope, if it would fit into my car).  

My latest project is a 12" travel telescope.  It is documented here: DS-Trill  

I have recently completed a 16" Deep Space Scope.  DS-4 is located here.

Design requirements of DS-3 were as follows:

Note - all pictures on this web site are clickable and will bring up full size pictures.

The finished product looks like this:

Deep Space 3, the Telescope Deep Space 3, the TelescopeDeep Space 3, ready to play
Two pictures of the completed truss scope, without baffling.  DS-3 ready to play.

Deep Space 3, the Telescope, torn down Scope in trunk of a Honda Del Sol

This lightweight dobsonian telescope torn down, and in the trunk of a Honda Del Sol.


Final design specs (as of Dec 2004) are:


Results - DS-3 under the stars - This web page describes how each section of the telescope performed, along with my analysis of the whole.  Generally, results have been spectacular.

Design methodology

This homebuilt telescope was designed and built in the following order - the primary mirror selection, primary box and mirror cell, secondary ring and secondary cell, trusses, bearings, and last rocker box and ground board.

  1. Select the mirror. I knew from working with a friend that a 12" lightweight telescope design would just fit my specifications. So, a 12" f5.0 primary mirror was selected. This mirror size maximizes the amount of light received, while still meeting my size and weight requirements. This mirror is from Gary Hand at Hands On Optics, and is of very good quality - as per numerous "old salts" in the local club.
  2. Select the building materials. See below.
  3. Design the telescope using NEWT.  I used NEWT(actually, it was NEWTWIN)  to check clearances and secondary mirror size.  See NEWT Design below for details.  See Sources and Supplies below to get NEWT.
  4. Design the mirror cell using PLOP.  OK, I didn't originally design the mirror cell using plop.  I used Jim Lawrence's experience and a good dose of common sense.  As per plop, I have about a 1/21 wave mirror cell.  Not terribly bad, but not good.  See Plop Design below for details.
  5. Design the mirror box and cell. The primary mirror cell will consist of three pads of plywood, attached to the mirror with double sided sticky tape. The mirror box will consist of plywood as follows: a single bottom layer with air holes, single layer sides and a double layer top plate (to add strength for the truss attachments). Mirror box is 15 1/2" X 15 1/2" X 4". Vertically through the center of the mirror box, this allows 1/2" for the bottom plate, 1/2" for the mirror cell plates, 1" for the springs between the mirror cell and the bottom plate, and 1 1/2" for the mirror. Total to the top of the mirror is 3 1/2".  This gives 1/2" of air between the top of the mirror and the top of the mirror box. Horizontally, this gives 12" for the mirror, 1/2"*2 for airspace around the primary, and 3/4"*2 of wood to the edges. We need this much space for attachment points for the trusses.
  6. Design the secondary "cage". The secondary cage will consist of a single plywood ring, with "stuff" attached to it. Using Newt, an inside diameter of 13 1/2 inches was chosen for the upper ring. This allows "stuff" to intrude into the ring by 1/2", and still have 1/4" on each side of clear air. However, if the "stuff" is small this gives a full 3/4" of clear air, which reduces vinyetting to a minimum. "Stuff" is currently three brass threaded rods that attach the secondary ring to the spider, and the focuser.  The focuser only intrudes into the secondary rings space when racked all the way in. We use a wire spider, which is made up of guitar string wire. The secondary cell will end up being a custom, lightweight setup. Note on the secondary cage. Any and all weight here will cause us trouble when trying to make small bearings and a small rocker box. So, we will try to keep the secondary "cage" weight VERY light. This also means that it is a VERY bad idea to add lots of gismos to the secondary cage.
  7. Trusses. Trusses for this truss telescope will be aluminum poles 3/4" in diameter, set into holes drilled into the mirror box.  They are then flexed into place. The top end of these trusses will have a hole drilled in them, which will be placed over the exterior portion of the brass threaded rods from section 4 above. Truss lengths should be about 60" (focal length) + 1/2" (1" into the mirror box, mirror is 1/2" into the mirror box) + 3" (distance from center of the focuser to middle of the upper ring) - 8" (distance from the middle of the secondary to the middle of the focuser) + 1/2" (distance from hole at top of truss to top of truss) = 56". Mine ended up being about 54 1/2" long.
  8. Bearings. With the telescope assembled, and with a guess at the weight impact of the bearings, the center of gravity (CG) is found. This will be the center of the bearings. The bearings can be any size and work, as long as the center of the bearings is also the CG.  However, the size of the bearings changes the friction of the altitude motion of the scope and size of the rocker box, so getting the correct size is important. Basically, bigger bearings seem to have a better "feel" in altitude motion. Also, for every inch increase in diameter of the bearings, we decrease an inch in the height of the rocker box sides and vice versa. I decided to attach the bearings directly to the sides of the mirror box, thus getting rid of any riser or additional structure to hold the bearings. This also makes the rocker box sides very small. You probably also want the bearings to not touch the ground when you set the scope on the ground without the rocker box. As a guess, this makes the outside bearing surface be about 11.5" in radius. For strength, we will make these bearings 1" wide and 2" thick.
  9. Rocker box and ground board. The rocker box bottom is made out of 1/2" plywood, backed up with additional plates of 1/2" plywood.  The ground board is also made from 1/2" plywood.

Building methodology

This ultra light dob was built using the following building materials:

Details of the steps to design and build this scope are in the following pages: